68 Thinline refurb

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  1. old_picker

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    This battle worn warrior is on the bench at the moment and have a couple of quick questions. The job is to replace the electrics, straighten ot the guard, rewind the bridge pickup, level crown and polish frets and a setup. The objective is to retain the look of the guitar as it is. Belonged to a very well known singer here who died recently. His son has chosen me to bring her back to life.

    The guard screws are way longer than I've seen before [am no expert on older teles] at around 3/4". See pic below. The guard is terribly warped and wonder if it has been an attempt by the owner to secure the guard to the body - didn't work too well but enough screws bit to hold it on.

    The neck heel stamp - what does it mean?

    The bottom pics are an attempt to show the warping in the guard. I'll use the warm day sunshine with guard sandwiched between two pieces of plate glass. Maybe the oven? still a little reading to do there.

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    1) not the original screws
    2) length of screws doesn't change of fix the warped pickguard by any means
    3) I had success by heating an warped pickguard at 80°C for about 30 min in the oven, pressed between two thick glass plates. Avoid any structure in the surface of the plates cause that will transfer/imprint into the pickguard.
     
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    2) length of screws doesn't change of fix the warped pickguard by any means
    Yeah not something I would have thought of - done by what we call down here a bush mechanic
    Thanks for the tip on the guard
     
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    Neck stamps became inconsistent in the late 60s and didn’t settle down until nearly the mid 70s. If you search online, there are a number of purported 68-70 necks with that type of stamp. Unfortunately, the meaning of some of these schemes are lost to time.

    This may help: https://www.tdpri.com/threads/1969-neck-stamp-mystery.261142/

    I think clamping between two sheets of wood and then putting the plate in the oven is known to straighten guards somewhat but sounds like a dicey operation to me… There might be some info online for what people do with the oft-warped old tortoiseshell guards

    Any chance of salvaging those original electronics or are the tracks too worn on the pots?
     
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    The electronics have been fiddled with over the years in a very amatuer way by the bloke who owned it. The wiring needs stripping out and redoing as Its a bit of a dogs breakfast. We've decided in the interest of making it a reliable player to replace the switch and pots but retain the exterior cosmetics.
     
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    Personally I would never replace the original pots. In case they are unusable I would replace only the carbon tracks. It appears that one of the pots has no shaft anymore but you may use a donor pot for that. Or leave ut as is. Also those switches can often be overhauled.

    Are you keeping the Strat pickup in the neck position?
     
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    yes both the original pickups are to be retained
     
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    33371.....105. I am guessing the neck was made in 1967.

    If I needed reliability, I would put the electronics in a baggie with a silica pack and save them. Then update the works.
     
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    Beware: wood would transfer the graining onto/into the pickguard material. Don't even try to.
     
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    I’ve seen the process described but it’s sounded like a quick way to ruin an old pickguard to me. I’d personally live with a slight warp.
     
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    As capitalbear says the pickguard issue may be resolved by heat. The glass and oven trick was how we dealt with warped vinyl records back in the day.
     
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    I left my slightly bent pickguard in the sun to try and straighten and it warped badly. Tread very carefully doing this.
     
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    I don't see a maple cap so the neck was made after 1969.
     
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    Wow, that guy is is great shape. I recently picked one up that was apparently buried in a yard for a couple decades. Best of luck on the refurb.
     
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    Nick says - "I don't see a maple cap so the neck was made after 1969"

    Close examination reveals there is a maple cap. My pic doesn't show it too well

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    To get that neck to fit the known neck codes, I believe the last digit is actually 9, which would mean it was October 1969. The first 3 is telecaster code and the 371 a batch code of some sort.
    That era has least understood neck codes so always a bit of guessing.
     
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    Earlier this year I ordered a Pickguard of Amazon and it happened to get lost. No biggie, they refunded and I went about my business. 3 or 4 months later the lost guard came in........like this.
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    I set it in the sun under a flat pc of Plexiglas for about 30-40 mins.
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    And here it is.
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    The problem with the Pearl pickguards is the different materials in the layers shrinking/aging at different rates. You may not be able to straighten it because not all layers will move the same when heat is applied.
     
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  18. old_picker

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    I'll report back on the results. Its spring here and good strong sun is not around atm lucky to score 21degC on a good day.

    I've looked at a few videos and reckon that 3-4" in the kitchen sink of hot tap water and a kettle of just boiled water into that. Face down on the benchtop with flat piece of mdf over it with a heavy half meter fruit bowl providing the flattening energy.
     
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    Good Luck!
    Don't have the same courage as you.
    My solution is loosening the screws.

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    Srews not so tight
     

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