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'67 Princeton Reverb priced fair?

Discussion in 'Amp Central Station' started by MickM, Mar 7, 2021.

  1. MickM

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    That is sharp. The fact it comes with original Oxford. I would take the 5U4 out - the power transformer isn't specced for 3 amp heater draw current. They're marginal to start with in that era.

    I'd offer $1700 and go 1800. You aren't going to find another like that.
     
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    Great looking Princeton Reverb. I’d go for it for sure if that’s what I wanted.
     
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    I'd say YES considering they are going up and up. Dam what a clean specimen! Buy it!
     
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    Seems fair, especially if the original transformers and blue caps are still there. That Alessandro speaker is also a great match for the amp.
     
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    It is very clean, but not having the original transformer does hurt the value among collectors. Adding the screen resisters is a good idea and if they still used the single can cap, I would change that as well.

    The really important thing when pricing a vintage amp is really the guts portion and the honesty of the seller....you are buying the seller as much as the amp. This is especially true if you are not a technical amp guru. I like that the seller names the shop that serviced it, invites the prospective buyer to come and play it, and asks for a phone call instead of texting. All of that makes me want to "buy the seller".

    As for price? The Princeton always holds value well and they often run in the $2250 - $2400 in my area for blackface examples. Not having the original power transformer does reduce that value though...I would say $1,800 - $2000 is pretty much the correct range.
     
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    The ad states that the power transformer is a replacement, and he sort of links that with the new rectifier tube. However, that replacement seems to be taken into account in the price... that seems to be on the lower end of what one might find around here, or on Reverb. It is otherwise quite clean - I am not sure about the other servicing that has been done to it. If I were spending the money, I would be opening it up first or asking for photos of the guts.

    Likely one of the last blackface Princeton Reverb's.
     
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    Ah, OK I missed the replacement transformer. I have to admit I like the 5U4 in Silverface Fenders.

    I don't think that's a deal breaker especially for a player. I think that amp's well priced comparatively.
     
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    Well, I'd say it's a pretty good price given how prices have suddenly skyrocketed this year!


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    I guess it depends on how badly you’d like it...but it does seem like a fair price.

    And you’re lucky, If I had the cash, I’d be racing you there!
     
  11. MickM

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    Seems like so many players like these amps and I've never had or played thru one and it's not far away. The minus- I'm pretty much "fulled up" on amps with 11 or 12 not getting gigged but getting played. But! A 12 Watt combo would not be redundant. Ah crap, we'll see.
    Also, I won't be butt hurt if anybody strikes a deal with the seller. Otherwise I wouldn't have started the thread. Thanks too for all the opinions and info.
     
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    ...but are they getting those prices? When I see "make offer" it is because they have been trying to sell it for quite awhile now.
     
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    I paid $1,800 for mine 3 years ago (a QF) and mine also has a newer OT (dated 1973). This one seems to be in better shape than mine. I'm not enough on top of current values to call it a steal, but it is a very good price for what it is.

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    In all honesty, I prefer the Brownface Princeton over the Blackface variety and thankfully, they are not on the buying radar as much. You can get a wonderful Brownface Princeton clone for about $1,500 brand new which is what I did over chasing a deal on the Blackface version. I can't imagine spending over 2k for a Blackface Princeton let alone some of those 3-4k prices you see at times. Just crazy what people are paying for those amps.
     
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    That's a good question. Rising used gear prices are getting talked about a lot right now on YouTube and various forums. Some think they'll drop while others argue they'll go up more. I guess it depends on if you're looking to buy or sell.
     
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    I bought a ‘66 Princeton Reverb for $1300 about 6-7 years ago, it also had a replacement transformer, the blue caps were still there and it had the original Jensen.

    It sounded amazing and it is probably the one amp that I most regret selling. If you can get that nice amp at under $2000, you’ll be fine.

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    The PTs they used in these during the blackface era were the same ones they used in the champ (IIRC), way underpowered and had a tendency to blow. You might be better off with a replaced PT anyway, if you’re not looking for a museum piece.

    Thats a nice amp. I don’t think that price is unreasonable, personally.

    I ran across and “rescued” a 65 PR chassis a few years ago. The PT was MIA but everything else was there, including all the blue caps. I got it working again with a new PT and put it in a Mather replacement cab. I’ve used that amp WAY more than I ever thought I would. Perfect in so many situations.
     
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    Someone in my area has had a 1965 Deluxe Reverb for sale for months now on Craigslist. The ad even says "Not a reissue!" They want $2500 for it. I assume that price is why it has been available for so long.
     
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    The seller seems legit and is encouraging you to play it before buying, which is a big plus. Price seems FMV.
     
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    There is new grille cloth there, too. Compared to exc/all original, I suppose that is a good looking player’s amp at a fair price. it would be good to know what power transformer was installed, imho. That is a great speaker installed in there. Be advised that IF someone did not replace the multisection can and the bias cap during that transformer surgery that one will be looking at an expense there. One would want that done...and maybe the 6 bypass electrolytics...along with a bias and voltage check. Add a couple of hundred there.
     
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