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'66 tele

Discussion in 'Vintage Tele Discussion Forum (pre-1974)' started by den_gerten, May 11, 2019.

  1. David Barnett

    David Barnett Doctor of Teleocity

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    Did they change the location of the decal during 1966?

    'Cause mine is angled a bit, and this one is straight.

    Mine:

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    And these are the knobs that should be on a '66:

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  2. Dacious

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    The sticker position looks odd on the headstock - possibly replaced. Rest looks OK, could do with some under guard shots
     
  3. 2 Headed Goat

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    I believe on mid 60's tele's the decal was applied over the finish so the transistional decal was prone to flaking off in places. My '66's decal looked very similar.

    Here's a vid with a mid 60's tele that shows the 'offsetness' of the p.g on the horn that I mentioned in my previous post.

     
  4. Mur

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    That '66 looks nice.
     
  5. robt57

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    Isn't the 'B' for neck with @ nut? Seem to recall a 10 year so period with that letter for that.

    Some googling:

    March 1962 to 1965: Ink stamp in dark blue or red ink below the truss rod adjustment at the butt end of the neck in "XX MMM-YY W" format. The "XX" is not the day of stamping. Instead it is a code for the type of neck (for example, "02"=Stratocaster, "3/4"=3/4 scale Musicmaster). The "W" is the neck width where "A" is the narrowest, "B" is normal, and "C" is the widest.

    Is that ink dark blue??
     
  6. den_gerten

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    Good eye!

    No nail holes in the back is a good or bad thing?

    I asked pics under the guard, maybe there will be an indication of the color.
    I'll look into the position of the guard. It might be the angle of the picture.

    I see what you mean about the PG. BTW you gotta love those guys.
     
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  7. d barham

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    Beautiful guitar.
     
  8. Lochry

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    Compared it to my '66. Parts check out. Can't vouch for finish.

    The decal placement is unusual, but not sure that is an issue. My '66 shows a host of minor variations from pre-CBS teles and I've seen a lot of variations among '66s themselves -- weight, neck thickness, etc. Guess it could be consequence of new people on the production line or assignment of more experienced hands to best selling models to meet demand.

    As to the guitar -- a beauty.
     
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  9. gitarjoe

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    that is very clean! I would have expert check the finish.
     
  10. bluenote23

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    I think they stopped using them in 1969 but before then, Fender used to support the bodies on sticks during drying. To do this, there were 2 small nail holes in the back of the body for the sticks. The holes were later filled but the filling was not invisible.

    So no nails holes, bad thing. If the paint is opaque and you can't see the grain of the body, then this may not be a problem (if the holes are covered by paint, it is hard to see or feel them).
     
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    Taken from Guitarhq.com:

    Neck Width.
    From March 1962 to 1969, Fender marked their necks with an "official" neck width letter at the butt of the neck (in front of the date code). The "B" neck width is the normal width, as used on about 99% of all Fenders from this period. All other sizes were available by special order only. Also all pre-1962 Fender necks have a 1 5/8" nut width (though I'm sure there are some exceptions, but none I have seen).

    • A = 1 1/2" wide at the nut.
    • B = 1 5/8" wide at the nut (normal size).
    • C = 1 3/4" wide at the nut.
    • D = 1 7/8" wide at the nut.
     
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    The nail holes on the face of the body were gone by 1965. Fender had switched to using a paint stick that was attached at the neck pocket. To route the body two holes were drilled at the back that were later filled and covered by the finish.
     
  13. den_gerten

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    I'll look for those holes.

    The bridge pickup was rewired by curtisnovak.com

    I got some more pictures:
     

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    No comments on the additional pictures? Any input on the color? Thanks
     
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    Color looks good to me. In 1966 Telecasters were available in both Blond and Olympic White for the same price. I assume all the Ash ones were Blond, and all the Alder ones were painted Oly White. Yours has some Ash grain showing through. Mine is Oly White, and has the word "White" written in magic marker in the control cavity.
     
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  16. den_gerten

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    Thank you for the reply.
     
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    If you can see grain through the finish it's 501 Blond and ash. After the 50s the finish got more opaque. This is a 78, that's how white and opaque. Yours should have a topcoat of nitro hence the yellowing. It looks to me like faint grain is visible

    Olympic White was actually a custom colour, I can't recall if sunburst was but blonde and black were standard.

    78_under_pickguard.jpg
     
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    ...Still not convinced by several minor details.
     
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    I'm really keen to consider it a well-done fake, and yes... with historically correct parts.
     
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  20. den_gerten

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    Ok, that doesn't make it easier. I haven't bought an expensive vintage guitar for that reason. You never know for sure, unless you're an expert.

    Anyone else having some red flags?
     
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