65 Deluxe Reverb vs 68 Vibrolux

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  1. gridlock

    gridlock Friend of Leo's

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    OP, of the two amps mentioned it go with the ‘68 Custom Deluxe Reverb with the NEO Creamback speaker. I’ve played this factory upgraded amp and it sounded spectacular.

    I would first look into finding a vintage SF Deluxe Reverb or SF Vibrolux Reverb for around $1000. Plan on putting another $200-$250 in the amp to have it serviced. You’ll then have an amp that could possibly last a lifetime and will appreciate in value.
     
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    E5RSY Poster Extraordinaire

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    My '74 has been a great amp to me. Mine sits about 20 feet from where I type this. Had it since '89. That Strat will make it sing, indeed.

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  3. bftfender

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    Thanks for the share.i have a gut feeling on this one that it can be something for my lineup.Any tips from your playing experience would be of great help!
     
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    My main advice...you'll probably want one of these :):

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    I have (had) both. I just sold my Vibrolux because it was more than I needed in my music room, and I prefer the sound of the DR over the VL. It sounds fuller and to me is more versatile.

    I have 2 Princetons I play through mainly, but also have a twin and blues Jr. The Princeton's are my favorite, then the DR. The twin is super-sexy sounding, but really loud as we all know.
     
  6. bftfender

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    lol,its going right on dollies. Just got a call back from the guy.he has a Bassman 4x10 he would sell reasonably along with it.Could be a 2fer kinda day
     
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  7. IMadeYouReadThis

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    I've never heard of replacing PCBs...but I'm not a tech.

    To me, the more intuitive thing is to get a turret board or PTP circuit and replace each component individually as they go out. If you know basic safety for working in high voltage and have some soldering skills, most PTP and turrent amps are easy to service. Major repairs should be taken to a tech, anyway.

    I'm surprised that a PCB only costs $100 a pop, but I still believe other wiring methods are cheaper in the long run. To each his own.

    EDIT: Typos.
     
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  8. TelePunkJCM

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    Complete bunk.

    I mean, your opinions about what you like, fine, whatever.

    The rest is BS.
     
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    The answer is simple. Ask yourself, "What would Bonamassa do?".

    And there you go.
     
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  10. TelePunkJCM

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    Buy 17 vintage ones with a side of Dumble?
     
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    I used to own a Custom Vibrolux Reissue which was the precursor to the '68 VR. In its stock form, the lack of a negative feedback loop made me kind of hate it. Did the fromel mods, swapped out the Jensens for a pair of Weber 10A150s and that was one cracking amp.

    Only thing though, was that my '65 DRRI just sounded punchier, and weighed a good 30% less than that CVR. Sure, the CVR cranked up was a thing of beauty, but it was more clean headroom than I would ever need in my lifetime.
     
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    Local deals can be found for 65 drri. I found one local for 700. No shipping. 700 out the door. If you are patient you will find a good deal on one.
     
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    I think those prices on those silverfaces are low ball.They are way more than that.
     
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  15. gridlock

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    I know where two are now for around 1K, just need to do some searching.
     
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    I’d take the Deluxe for lower wattage. I used to use a Vibrolux (a real ‘65) but it was too much amp for too many gigs.

    My main gig amp since 2015 has been a ‘68 Custom Princeton Reverb. I swapped out the reverb tank and put in better tubes, but that’s it. Fabulous sounding amp and a real workhorse on stage and studio. When you turn it up past 5 it practically levitates and floats around the room.

    The PCB is a logical engineering choice and works just fine.


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  17. Sean Mac

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    There is a handwired Deluxe available from Fender.

    The 64 Custom Deluxe Reverb.

    In Europe, where vintage Fenders are rare, it seems almost good value.

    2500 euro or so when I looked at it on Thomann.de

    So PCB or eyelet board ?

    Fender are ready to take your money.....:)
     
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  18. corliss1

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    All of things things are right :D Except the "Fender reissues use bad boards." In my experience, those are some of the best boards going right now. They are *completely* different from the Hot Rod series boards that get all the complaints, easy to work on, nicely labeled.

    The 65/68 series are solid amps. If you have a way to do it, go play a couple of each and then decide.

    The tech in my still firmly believes in going vintage though, but as has been mentioned there would be some initial outlay for a service (cap job, grounded cord or rewire, other general service things, maybe some tubes).

    I always tell people to get what you want so you don't think about it later - if you make sure to do that, you're good.
     
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  19. gridlock

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    Found two SF VR’s and a SF DR at one store around 1K.
     
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  20. hermit crab

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    Very interesting thanks. i'm no tech but the 'modified DR circuitry and built in transformer rectifier sag' fender refer to had me wondering ....

    If it uses the same OT and PT then surely it is just a DR modded to Ss rectifier to reduce current in PT and give a bit more juice to the 6L6 ?

    Does it have same power supply as DR ?

    I noticed they left it's NFB at 65 DRRI values (820 ohms + 47 ohm shunt resistors ) thereby halving it as now 4 ohms ( or 3.3 ) from 6L6 https://markweinguitarlessons.com/f...-feedback-to-an-amp-that-dont-got-none.86447/

    Maybe the 68 CVR's increased compression ( over the 68 CDR ) some users have noticed is from 6L6 on the small DR OT ?
     
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