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5W tube amps personal experience?

Discussion in 'Amp Central Station' started by kuvash, Jan 1, 2020.

  1. chipwich

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    Every one of my 5 watters has a 5751 in them .
     
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    Just got a Swart STR trem last week. Lovin it so far. It has the Celstion Creamback ceramic instead of the mojotone.
     
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    I've owned AC15/30s, and I've played through 60s JMI VOX amps.
    The AC4HW1 (with requisite celestion Blue) to my ears, has that sweet vintage VOX vibe.

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    It doesn't sound "small", especially when you put it on an amp stand.
     
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    Hey Jacky, Thinking of taking the expensive plunge and doing this Mod....

    Could you kindly explain the tonal differences b/w the stock Greenback and the Blue? How does it affect the amps breakup and headroom? Is there a difference in the Bottom end?

    Thanks man...

    Rich
     
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    I have a Quilter 201 Tone Block (SS) usually set at ~2w, and a Bugera G5 (ECC83/12BH7) usually set to 1w. Both sound great. I use a 1x12 and 2x8 with the Quilter (hence the ~2w setting), and a 1x12 with the Bugera. I use my pedal board with the Quilter (both at the input and with the fx loop). The Bugera has onboard reverb that sounds good to me, and I do use pedals with it on occasion (I have a jumper on my board to place all pedals through the input if I want more than the OD/boosts). The Quilter was a SDoD at $249...the Bugera used at $180. Cheers!
     
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    I’ve got a Gries 5 head ordered from Dave. I should be getting it in the next couple weeks. Can’t wait! I’ll post NAD and pictures when it arrives.

    This is a photo of one I found on the Internet.

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    Rich:

    I love the vintage VOX sound. Back in the late 50s and 60s, the Celestion Blue was the stock speaker and (still) an integral part to the VOX sound.

    The Celestion Blue, to my ears, is unsurpassed for brilliance and clarity. The bottom end is clearer on the Blue, but I recall you may get more headroom from the Greenback. I play clean, just before the amp begins to clip/overdrive. But some guys aren't necessarily seeking the same sound/tone, and the Greenback suits them fine.

    Here's a good comparison:



    Check out this thread.

    You can get a great deal on a Blue at Avatar Speakers. I hope that this helps.
     
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    Looking forward to your NAD! I posted a suggestion for the Gries 5 in this thread. When I was shopping for an amp like the OP a few years ago, the Gries ticked all my boxes, but I was surprised how little info there actually is out there in these amps. Sure, I would have liked onboard trem and verb, but I got a Flint for that. This keeps the amp circuit super simple and easy to tube NOS, if you want.


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    Sounds good. I’ll post NAD and pictures as soon as I’ve got the amp in hand and have a had a chance to put a couple hours on it. Can’t wait.
     
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    Thanks man! Really appreciate all that. Can I ask if you had any issues fitting the Blue in your AC4HW1? I understand the alnico speaker bigger in terms on depth than the stock Green.
     
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    I am a fan of the VHT Special 6... it's outstanding in the field...
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    None at all; fits like a glove :)
     
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    Bugera V-5 is very dark, will take some mods to create good reslts.
     
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    The Mini Z has become my favorite amp. I've swapped the pre-amp tube a few times to clean it up. Mine's an Anniversary model head. Run it into a 1x12 and 2x12 cabintet with Celestion G12-65s and 2 ea. Seventy 80s. The Mini loves my pedalboard. HOF mini reverb is very nice along with a few Barber pedals, MXR EQ, Nobels ODR. Since buying the amp, I've rediscovered how useful the tone controls on my guitars are; they do stuff:) Volume? It's loud. Surprisingly loud.
     
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