5F10 vs 6G2

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  1. Thinline casket

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    I'm looking at 2 lil dawgs.

    Brown Princeton with a 12" cannabis rex.
    Tweed Harvard with a 12" fane 60.

    I have singles, buckers, wrhb... I play clean soul and funk, and slightly dirty blues. Chicago, Memphis, Muscle Shoals.

    Any thoughts on tone differences and headroom? All I know is the rex probably darkens the brown (which is not bad for me).
     
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    If you need to gig, the Brown would be more headroom most likely. They probably both sound great.
     
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    Do you like trem?
     
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    I don't hate it. But I rarely use it. It's not a deal breaker either way.
     
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    On paper, they are very similar amps, aren’t they...except for the trem? I have never seen or played a Harvard 5F10. I like the 6G2 a great deal. I don’t like any hemp cone speaker I have heard....but I keep my ears open. What I have heard is just too dark for my tastes. They sound like a blanket has been thrown over the amp, ime.
    Neither would be my choice for soul or funk...ommv. Old school Chicago Blues??? I would like a cathode biased output. You might not like this suggestion, but a Fender Pro Sonic would cover all of those bases very well...at any volume. Again....ommv.....and at 54 pounds the Pro Sonic is a lot of amp...and well-built.
     
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    Thanks, Wally.

    This would be a second amp. I'm waiting on a samamp which is basically a 6L6 blackface with a tweed mid knob.

    As far as the blanket goes, for years I played a Sheraton through a polytone. Me and Linus, lol.

    Too bad I can't buy both!
     
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    Basically the same amp, the speakers would be the thing that most differentiates them as a package.
     
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    Thanks. That was my guess. But a few more opinions doesn't hurt.
     
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    Interesting running across this thread. Listened to an interview with Steve Cropper. The 5f10 was the amp he used on “Sitting on the Dock of the Bay” and “Green Onions”. That amp is now at the Smithsonian.
     
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    20200131_165538.jpg Here's my Clark Webster/Harvard and my original 1962 6G2.They both have the same speaker. I had a pair of original 1961 Jensen P10Q's that came out of a brown Super. These amps are very similar and sound pretty much the same until about 5 on the volume dial. The Harvard breaks up sooner than the Princeton. If you have no use for tremolo, go for the pure circuit of the Harvard. I also prefer 10 inch speakers to 12 inch speakers in these amps. Either way they are a wonderful pair of amps. My Champ is pretty much a badass too!!


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    I will observe that some voltage and bias numbers would be of interest in that comparison. Bias can make or break an amp....and also determine how and when things overdrive.
     
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    I'm sure they all sound great with single coils. Maybe wide range too. What about humbuckers?
     
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    Oops. Quoted the wrong person. :lol:
     
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    better...IF you like humbuckers more than single coil Fender pickups. (;^)
     
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    Thanks. Lol. I like wide range better than anything. :D
     
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    Interesting running across this thread. Listened to an interview with Steve Cropper. The Harvard 5f10 was the amp he used on “Sitting on the Dock of the Bay” and “Green Onions”. That amp is now at the Smithsonian.
     
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    Jim's great and both amps will serve you well. Don't sweat it and get whichever one you want more, they aren't all that different. (and yeah, both will make great soul, country, rock, funk, etc... amps)
     
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    I've been twirling 5F11, 5F10, and 6G2 around for my next build.

    Have all the parts and I'm leaning 6G2, since it seems a bit cleaner in the clips I've heard. 6G2 is reported to have good touch sensitivity.
     
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    I have a 6G2 clone that I made, and it's a wonderful sounding amp. For my tastes, it has taken a while to dial in, tonally. That is, I'd say it's finicky about tubes and speakers. I think this is in large part due to the midrange content in the tone. All that said, I definitely would not use a hemp cone speaker in that amp. The Cannabis Rex is loud and bold, which is cool, but it's also really smooth and I think would be too dark in that circuit. I ended up with a Celestion Blue in mine, and I've found that to be great.

    With the 6G2, the sound of the amp is going to depend a lot on whether you like tremolo or not. Since you don't use it much, you don't have to worry about biasing the amp so that the trem sounds the best. Because when you do that, the bias is lower. So you can simply bias the amp for the non-tremolo tone -- so a bit higher. And I think that will give you a little more push and grit for the "slightly dirty blues" you play.

    And your avatar lists "Flintstone." Any chance that's Flintstone, GA?

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