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'52 Telecaster Custom Shop, Brass saddle, all round or flat bottom?

Discussion in 'Fender Custom Shop Tele Forum' started by NanaW82, Jan 24, 2021.

  1. NanaW82

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    HI guys, I'm Nana from Montreal and I'm new here

    I just bought a used 2017 Custom Shop '52 Telecaster Journeyman Relic
    I would like to know, the bottom of the brass saddles are flat on my guitar and I was wondering if they are usually flat on CS Tele or the part have been changed?
    I was thinking they would be all round, but since it's my first CS Fender, I'm really not sure about that.

    Thanks in advance

    Nana!
     
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    Boreas Friend of Leo's Silver Supporter

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    Welcome aboard!

    What, no pix?? We like pix here - especially new guitars to the fold. Show us those saddles.
     
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    Why not just ask fender directly?
     
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    No pics = fake news!

    ;)
     
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    welcome to TDPRI and that sounds like a great guitar. i don't know for sure, but i think those are the right saddles because it's a "journeyman" model. the journeyman is some different from a perfectly "vintage" custom shop guitar - it should have some subtle improvements. i think.
     
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    Journeyman is only a type of relicing (which mean aged but not heavy relicing) it has nothing to do with being different from perfectly vintage style, they use the same part on NOS, Closet Classic, Journeyman, Relic and Heavy relic, here's what it's all about
    http://www.fendercustomshop.com/series/time-machine/

    And the reason why I didn't ask Fender directly is because I had to ask 2 questions to fender in the past, first one I got very vague information (didn't really answered my question) and second one, never got a reply from them
    On the saddle picture, you can see the bottom part is flat and not round... Well I finally had my answer on another forum, they use the flat bottom saddles on CS guitars

    Thanks anyway!
     

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    Beautiful guitar. I’ve always wanted to spring for a custom shop build.
     
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    VillainSean Tele-Meister Gold Supporter

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    Dang, Now i need to check some of my guitars ;)
     
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    Whatever. That's a sweet looking guitar. Congrats
     
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    You got me worried, so I had to check. Switch tips and flat-bottomed saddles Are the things that keep me up at night.
    Looks like mine are flat too.
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    If a dumb question, I'm sorry, but I love the lighter blonde of this body.

    What am I looking at? CS? An original 52!?
     
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    Thanks. This is a ‘54 CS Tele. I got it from Willcutt, and this was supposedly inspired by an authentic 1954 Blackguard they had at one time. A cool little feature is that the serial # on the bridge plate is borrowed from the ‘54. (It’s got the Typical CS serial on the back)
    I think the relic job is outstanding on this one. 6.7 lbs. very happy with this one.
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    To the OP-forgive me for hijacking your thread.
     
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    I'm the hijacker! But that is gorgeous. It was the darn serial number on the bridge that was throwing me off!

    And it is kind of relevant to the OP, it shows what a CS guitar should look like, as does his, just different levels of aging and wear.

    I love how the clear lacquer (that turned butterscotch) that is worn off on the edges exposes the white blonde underneath. That's my understanding of how they were done in the early days!

    Thanks for sharing!

    And your switch tip appears to have the correct convex and not concave top, so you can sleep a little easier on that, too!
     
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    Not to detract from the OP's sweet looking Tele but the translucent/grain finish on yours is superb.
     
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    To ask an obvious dumb question....but why would it matter? The saddles are resting on the bridge plate on the little grub screw ends, right? Am I missing something? (probably)
     
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    As far as playability? Wouldn’t matter at all other than you could get a flat bottom slightly closer to the bridge plate if you had to.

    why does it actually matter? The OP stated it in their original post...they wanted to make sure it was all original and/or period correct and not switched out parts.
     
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    I love the light nocaster blond as well. Its the color of my journeyman relic CS 52 tele.
     
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    What features would distinguish a '54 from a '53 or '56, aside from serial number?
     
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    I really don’t know all particulars. I acquired the “54” mainly because I thought the finish looked (to me) amazing and is lightweight. I like that fender did a specific relic job and neck profile for this guitar, based on a real example. I think the earlier 54s are of the Blackguard variety and later 54s transition to white guard, staggered poles, other cosmetics.
    I suppose this could be a 51-54 tele, as best I can tell. I’m certainly no expert. I've never played a tele made in 54, but I can say that this one sounds really good. I’m not a neck pickup guy, but the bridge sounds and feels a lot like my old Esquire.
     
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