52 RI Loaded Body - Help w/ Info?

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  1. Wicker

    Wicker TDPRI Member

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    Hello All,
    In May 2007 this (photos attached) was purchased on line from a guitar dealer...marketed as a loaded 52 Reissue body. I was looking for a serial #. There is nothing on the bridge plate (except "patent pend."). Attached photo is what shows in the neck pocket. Maybe it says "Alvaro" or "Alavano" with numbers 6 and 1 visible. Can anyone help me decipher this or otherwise shed light on what I may have (year, where made...)? It functions flawlessly...I added a modern C-shape 9.5" maple neck...but seeking to understand if any more info. Tele1.jpg Tele2.jpg
    Thanks all!
    Wicker
     

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  2. mimmo

    mimmo Friend of Leo's

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    Ho Wicker, I think that the simplest way to get this information is getting in touch with Fender, they will be able to answer your questions.

    Nice body BTW!
     
  3. Geo

    Geo Friend of Leo's

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    It appears to be a Classic 50s body.
     
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    1300 E Valencia Friend of Leo's

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    A genuine '52 reissue has the serial number on the bridge plate, brass bridge saddles, and black single ply pickguards. Three strikes, sorry. Probably Mexican, still probably nice, but not a Vintage Reissue.
     
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  5. AlbertaGriff

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    For a '52 RI, I think the colour would be more yellow, and there would be a part number stamped in the neck pocket (I forget what number).

    Agree it's likely a Classic series 50's, or something like that.
     
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  6. Dacious

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    Looks like Alvaro painted it or QC'd it. I'd agree white 5-hole guard, colour it's a MIM 50s Classic. If you want to test the topcoat to be sure, a drop of nail varnish remover on the paint in the pocket is a giveaway. If it's not melting, it's not nitro.
     
  7. Wicker

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    Thanks, I believe you guys nailed it. So I'm a bit peeved (albeit 11 years after the fact...) I didn't catch it at that time. Oh well, still a great guitar, but looks like I overpaid at $430.

    Best...
    Wicker
     
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  8. Teleterr

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    Woah, 2007. Were the models being suggested even out yet ? Theres been a lot of '52RI runs, so obviously it would be either the one just finishing at 2007 or earlier. I had a '96. It came w 3 bridges, one of which was 3 barrels Steel.
     
  9. Crafty Fox

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    Mine is an '88; supplied with 3 bridges, extra tone pot to wire modern style, black pickguard and a butterscotch nitro finish.
    I haven't had the neck off for many years so I don't recall what's stamped in the pocket.
     
  10. John C

    John C Friend of Leo's Silver Supporter

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    I agree with those saying it's an MIM Classic 50s body. They came out in either 1999 or 2000; I had a 2004 for a while.
     
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    I have a 2006 Classic 50s. Body looks just like yours and it's a fine playing and sounding Tele. I play it bone stock and never felt the need to upgrade anything. I paid 6 bills plus tax, used a couple of years ago, and don't think your cost was out of line. There weren't a lot of them out there at the time and most of the used ones online were in the 6 and up range. The one I got was the only one I've seen for sale in the Tucson area and I visit the guitar stores on a regular basis. I do see a few used '52 RIs and don't think you would find a loaded body in the 4 to 5 hundred range. YMMV. :)

    Btw . . . you related to Hod Wicker, excellent artist from OK?
     
  12. Tuxedo Poly

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    The Fender Classic Series 50s body part number is 54161. It looks like you have the 161 in the neck pocket.
    The '52 AVRI and Classic Player Baja bodies are completely different part numbers.
     
  13. Wicker

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    Thanks, you guys have been most helpful!! Truly appreciated.

    Best,
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    (PS - no relation to Hod...just my silly handle...)
     
  14. boris bubbanov

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    If you want even more detail on that body, shoot and post an image of the body with the pickguard off. There will be unmistakable signs of its provenance under there.

    It sure looks good, and that counts for something!
     
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    there should be some barcodes under the control plate and the neck pickup, should give you the correct part number.
     
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    The bridge pickup rout is a useful pointer. Mexican Teles have an extra notch in the rout.

    Left is AVRI, right Classic Series 50s.
    Tele_bridge_pu_rout_AVRI_Mex.jpg
     
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    Holy cow! Someone finally spelled "rout" correctly!
     
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    Beautiful body and neck should fir perfectly.
    PLEASE keep the screws on the pickguard to 5 only and not Philips heads.
    This leads me to believe it could just be a "59 as Jim Campliongo plats.
     
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    If someone was trying to create a replica of a Telecaster at a certain point in time, then the clues point to 1954.

    The more white (vintage blond) color, domed knobs, steel saddles, Pat Pend bridge, white pickguard, old style barrel switch. It's all there. All those features all only existed together for a short period of time in very late 1954 to very early 1955.

    Or on the MIM Classic Series 50s Telecaster.

    Or on the Custom Shop 1954 Closet Classic.

    Or on my Squier Classic Vibe that I dressed up that way, except for the top hat knob of a '55.

    I wonder what the wiring is like, if it's standard modern or dark circuit.

    Don't MIM bodies have extra 3/4" holes routed in the neck pocket and under the guard for ID purposes? When did Fender begin that? tapatalk_1544622023505.jpeg tapatalk_1544622029598.jpeg
     
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