4 way switch -- your experience

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  1. suave eddie

    suave eddie Friend of Leo's

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    I play a G&L ASAT Classic. I've always been intrigued by the idea of the 4 way switch.
    For those of you who have done it (especially if you have an ASAT) how often do you actually use the "series" position?

    I always have a feeling that after installing it I would not end up using it.

    Please share your experiences.
     
  2. srblue5

    srblue5 Tele-Holic

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    I have a Vintera Modified 50s Tele. I’ve played around with the series/out-of-phase switching at home but always forget to do so in band rehearsal/gig settings. The regular 3-way options are good enough for me, I guess. Maybe one of these days I’ll remind myself to use the other switching options in an actual song.
     
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    Mexitele Blues Tele-Afflicted

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    There are more options for the extra position than just the series configuration. I wired mine to add a .02 uf cap to the middle position to cut some bass. I use that setting more than the regular middle position now.
     
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  4. Stiles

    Stiles Tele-Meister Silver Supporter

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    I have one on my Barn Buster. Its great! I most often use it as a boost/fattener for solos. I have considered installing one on my CS '63, but I have an irrational fear of losing some tonal mojo.
     
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  5. KelvinS1965

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    I found I didn't use it after the initial testing phase. I found it a hindrance when playing as it makes the selector more 'cramped' to my mind (despite also playing a Strat which of course has a 5 way switch). Put mine back to the standard 3 way switch arrangement.

    I did fit a mid boost PCB to mine and that gives me much more control over the sound, giving it a 'fatter' sound as I dial up the mid boost, or just roll it back to zero for the standard Tele tones.
     
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    Controller Friend of Leo's Silver Supporter

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    I use series most often. Richer than single coil but not as heavy as a regular humbucker.
     
  7. beanluc

    beanluc Tele-Afflicted

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    I mean, you can always go back. It definitely adds loudness and fatness, there's no doubt. Will you like it? I think you should try it and see.
     
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  8. Greggorios

    Greggorios Friend of Leo's Silver Supporter

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    I love mine (in series) and use it regularly. Just more colors for the palette, particularly when playing something that lends itself to a humbucker-ish or a little fuller feel.
     
  9. old wrench

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    I use that 4th position a lot - it's a great sound for the blues and blues/rock that I play.

    I discovered that tone in an odd way - I traded guitars with a guy and got a Tele in return, it was an American Telecaster, maybe a Deluxe?

    Maple neck, Cherry sunburst and binding - nice looking and playing guitar.

    And it had a push switch on the knob that engaged the the two coils - humbucker style.

    I always add that option to the Teles I build by using a 4-way switch - it makes a Tele so versatile.

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    It’s a humbucker sound, a little louder and fatter than the single coils. I have one tele with the 4-way, and another with a 3-way. I like the series sound, but I don’t really use it much. Three distinct sounds is enough for me.
     
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  11. Hpilotman

    Hpilotman Tele-Holic

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    Really like the 4 way switch on my Esquire.
     
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  12. Vocalion

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    I really like playing around with the 4th position on my Baja Tele. I also have the ten-way Free-Way switch on my MIM Standard-series Stratocaster which allows me to get three in-series pickup selections. I'm not so enamored with the in-series sounds on the Strat (especially the neck and middle combo) as it gets a bit flubby. I suspect it's because of the higher-output ceramic pickups. I'm going to guess that your ASAT has hotter pickups than my Baja, but I don't know whether the sounds I'm getting on my Strat are because of the higher-output pickups or something else entirely. Perhaps some of the others who were disappointed with the 4th position on their Tele can weigh in on how hot their pickups are.
     
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    I have a 2014 Fender Am Dlx Telecaster that came with the stock S1 switch. It crapped out a few years ago and I ended up putting in a 4 way switch instead of replacing the S1 switch. It works great for my needs. I play on the neck pickup 85% of the time so being able to flip the switch one notch to series for solos works great.
     
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    Series is my favorite on my Tele. I have a treble bleed too so it’s delicious.
     
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    It’s become my default position. I use the others too, but I use series at least 50% of the time.
     
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    suave eddie Friend of Leo's

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    For some reason I've always suspected this would be my experience also.
     
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    Willie Johnson Tele-Afflicted

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    I have one in my parts box, but for the bloody life of me I couldn't figure out how to get that ground wire onto the metal neck pickup cover. I've thought about using it in a Strat and wiring the middle pickup to an independent volume straight to the jack--that would give me 9 total pickup switching combinations.
     
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  18. El Tele Lobo

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    It impressed me enough that it’s a modification that I’ve done to all of my telecasters. I find that I use it quite a bit. But then, I use all of the positions pretty regularly. I play a lot of different styles and it’s just another flavor in my toolkit.

    I like teles a lot for jazz and I like the series position a lot for jazz….sometimes even more than the neck alone. Can sound rather like a P90 with some pickup sets.

    It also works great as a lead boost as had already been mentioned.

    I find I use all the settings as follows:

    • Bridge alone: country lead, rock and general rhythm…especially in a band context.
    • Bridge + Neck in parallel: funk, some country, spaghetti western, surf and rockabilly. Also sounds great with expansive, Edge-style modulated delay.
    • Neck only: blues and rock soloing, some funk and jazz.
    • Bridge + Neck in series: fatter rhythm, lead boost fir rock and blues, jazz generally, particularly when I want warmth with more clarity and definition or anytime I want a P90ish tone.
    • I use all of them for worship and ambient.
    I can do everything I need with a Tele.
     
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  19. guitarmikey

    guitarmikey Tele-Afflicted

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    For me is a sort of mini-boost that I can add as a plus in solo. On my partscaster Robben Ford inspired & Texas Specials.
     

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    My setup is with a P90 in the neck, a treble bleed on the volume pot and a no load tone pot.

    With the P90, the series position gets too thick, where you have to roll off the volume, which necessitates the treble bleed.

    It's kind of like "give a pig a pancake" but in the end it's worth it.
     
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