3 pickup tele

[Scooby9261]

I have a telecaster that I routed for a 3rd pickup. I installed the third (middle) pickup and wired it up. But the middle pickup is no inphase with the tele bridge and neck pickups. Ive tried reversing the wires o the middle pickup (which is a strat pickup). But its still out of phase.

Does anyone know anywhere that sell 3 pickup telecaster pickup sets that would work well together and in phase ?

Thanks

 

[0SubSeanik0]

The Nashville Tele Problem - Fralin Pickups

Nashville Telecasters combine the tone of a Strat and Tele. But converting to a Nashville Tele isn't that easy. Let's explain why.

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If you made the Neck the same polarity as the Bridge, you could put a RW / RP pickup in between. You’ll then have Hum-Canceling and correct phase in the entire guitar.

To reverse the phase of one of your pickups, it will need to be wound and magnetized opposite of what it is currently

 

[jfgesquire]

I have a telecaster that I routed for a 3rd pickup. I installed the third (middle) pickup and wired it up. But the middle pickup is no inphase with the tele bridge and neck pickups. Ive tried reversing the wires o the middle pickup (which is a strat pickup). But its still out of phase.

Does anyone know anywhere that sell 3 pickup telecaster pickup sets that would work well together and in phase ?

Thanks

Something isn't right with your explanation.

If your bridge and neck pickup are in phase, then your middle pickup must be in phase in one of the two wire configurations. When it's in phase it may not be hum cancelling.

Now if your neck and bridge are out of phase, then your middle will be in phase with one and out of phase with the other no matter what you do with the wires

But you definitely cannot have what you say you have.

 

[sjtalon]

Two (and three) pickups 101

Remember that RWRP is a relative term, one pickup to its mate. A pickup per se is not RWRP.

The real term should be RC RP; that is, reverse CONNECTED. How a pickup is wound doesn't really mean jack. What matters is how the MANUFACTURES wire them. That is, what color leads they use so that when wired, they are correct with each other PHASE WISE. For instance, Fender is usually black positive, white ground (or coil negative).

There is no standard as far as connection, OR polarity in the industry of a SET, so it's a crapshoot when you mix brands.

One can get any two pups IN PHASE by reversing the coil leads on ONE pickup of the set. Sometimes a modification to the pickup has to be done to make it a three-wire, if one of the leads is connected to a cover (Tele neck) or bridge metal baseplate, which is often done to both ground the coil, and cover or baseplate with one lead to a pot.

If you want noise reduction, ONE of the two pickups must be of opposite polarity and CONNECTED in reverse (or opposite how the wind is as far as its positive lead).

If you don't care about the noise reduction, then POLARITY doesn't matter, they can both be the same, only the correct connection (of leads) so the two are in phase with one another.

What stinks about a Nashville is you can't have the best of all worlds noise reduction (NR) wise (RC/RP pup in the set) if you want 7 way. So on Stratocasters with a FENDER NR set, the neck and bridge are NORTH top and the middle south. So on 2 and 4 you have NR. Deluxe Nashville Teles (also Strat-O-Tone) are wired the same.

If a person wants the Telecaster option of Neck and bridge and NR with a Nashville, you would have to decide which "Strat" tone you prefer, usually Neck and middle (#4), then have those opposite for the NR, with the bridge opposite the neck.

When you do that, your middle and bridge will be the same polarity wise so no NR there. Not the end of the world anyway, some pups aren't that noisy like that, or if you don't use # 2 it doesn't matter anyway.

 

[sjtalon]

I have a telecaster that I routed for a 3rd pickup. I installed the third (middle) pickup and wired it up. But the middle pickup is no inphase with the tele bridge and neck pickups. Ive tried reversing the wires o the middle pickup (which is a strat pickup). But its still out of phase.

Does anyone know anywhere that sell 3 pickup telecaster pickup sets that would work well together and in phase ?

Thanks

Wilde Keystone makes a set.

Or maybe you could just get a different middle one.

Take a compass to your neck and bridge...............if the NORTH end of the needle points, it is a SOUTH top polarisation.

Then tell us what the middle turns out to be.

 

[BrokenTele]

Tonerider makes a couple RWRP Nashville sets.

 

[jvin248]

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Use a multimeter like here (if you don't have one, get a Harbor Freight $7 meter or from Amazon for about the same).



If you need to flip pickup connector wires at the switch to get all three to play nice together, keep the bridge pickup wired with it's ground wire on the ground. Flip the middle and neck pickups from that base. The reason is a bridge pickup gets played more often with heavy distortion and having the correct inner coil ground vs outer coil wraps ground if reversed will keep your noise level lower.

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[Scooby9261]

Ok what I did was take the tele pickups plate off and glue the bridge strat single coil strat pickup to the plate. I then grounded that plate. I then enlarged whole for the neck pickup on the guard. Now i have a Strat in a tele. Im debating changing the control plate to a wood one. Still debating that. So this is basically a Strat/Tele. Always wanted one and after years of on an off working on this guitar, its finally done.