3 pickup tele wiring HEEELP please

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  1. thegaijin

    thegaijin Tele-Meister

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    Hi. I hope someone can help with this.
    I put together a partscaster recently with three SD pickups. Basically a Brent Mason setup, except I have SD mini HB in the neck as opposed to Mr Mason's Gibson mini HB.

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    I love it, however one thing driving me nuts is that the treble loss on the neck mini HB is absolutely brutal when I lower the volume, even from 10 to 9. It's so pronounced that I can't even believe the man himself would have this as his number one guitar. However I bought it all prewired and as far as I can tell the wiring is correct. To me it looks just like the other "brent mason wiring" diagrams out there. And I've spent way more time than I really should have scouring the web looking at them. I emailed the seller but didn't get a reply, so here I am.

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    I reckon I have 2 options, but I'm not entirely sure, so this is where I'd really appreciate feedback.
    1) put in some sort of treble bleed mod. What sort works best for mini humbuckers? I mean values for cap and resistor that generally work well for mini humbuckers? Kinman mod etc?
    2) bypass the tone pot altogether for the neck mini HB. Would this eliminate treble loss when I turn down the volume?

    If number 2 would work, how should I modify the wiring?

    Is this treble loss normal for a wiring/pickup configuration like this? Is there something I should recheck on my wiring job? Crappy soldering? I wrapped the braided wire from the neck HB in electrical tape as I was worried it would touch something it shouldn't and short out. I doubt that's the cause, but waddoiknow. And btw, did I need to do that anyway?

    The middle and bridge also lose treble but nowhere near as much as the neck.

    If you took the time to read this, thank you.
     
  2. Seasicksailor

    Seasicksailor Friend of Leo's

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    No idea! But, intuitively, option 2 sounds more attractive to me. It simplifies rather than complicate, and I do not think I would miss the tone knob on a neck humbucker. Good luck!
     
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  3. Ira7

    Ira7 Doctor of Teleocity

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    I thought I've seen it all--a lipstick in the middle? And three knobs.

    That Tele frightens me!

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    My mistake. I first viewed this on my phone, and thought that was a lipstick in the middle.
     
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  4. SonsOfMoog

    SonsOfMoog Tele-Meister

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    A tone knob on the neck is useful for coaxing a fuzz sound out of a high gain pedal. Or for a thumpy jazz tone. If neither of those interests you, go ahead with option 2.

    Best of luck.
     
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  5. thegaijin

    thegaijin Tele-Meister

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    I'm leaning towards that too but don't know how to change the wiring.
     
  6. thegaijin

    thegaijin Tele-Meister

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    Haha. Heaven forbid :)
     
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  7. Peter Rabbit

    Peter Rabbit Tele-Holic

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    A treble-bleed circuit, even just a cap .001, should remedy your ills.
     
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  8. Wally

    Wally Telefied Ad Free Member

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    +1 on the treble bypass circuit. I use a larger cap than the generally accepted .001mfd with a resistor in parallel....maybe 68k-100k.
     
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  9. jvin248

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    Search 'guitarnutz2 treble bleed' and read the JohnH thread you find listed. He shows effects of all the TB circuits and offers best options. It really works for your problem.

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  10. warrent

    warrent Friend of Leo's

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    try the treble bleed first, attach the cap or cap and resistor to some alligator clips and clip it to the volume pot and see if it helps no soldering needed at first.
     
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  11. thegaijin

    thegaijin Tele-Meister

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    Thanks guys. I ordered a variety of caps and alligator clips. Couldn't find any resistors online but will let you know how it goes
     
  12. thegaijin

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    0.01 capacitor fixed it!! Thanks again guys.
     
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