1. Win a Broadcaster or one of 3 Teles! The annual Supporting Member Giveaway is on. To enter Click Here. To see all the prizes and full details Click Here. To view the thread about the giveaway Click Here.

$3 Fret levelling, Cheap 'R' Us

Discussion in 'Tele Home Depot' started by rirakuma, Feb 28, 2011.

  1. rirakuma

    rirakuma Tele-Meister

    Posts:
    234
    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2010
    Location:
    Brisbane, Australia
    I had this idea of using a sharpening stone to do fret levelling, does this sound like a bad idea? They cost $3 a block and I assume they will stay dead flat for a while.


    [​IMG]
     
  2. guitarbuilder

    guitarbuilder Telefied Ad Free Member

    Posts:
    23,185
    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2003
    Location:
    Ontario County
    Nope it's been done for decades. The stone will load up with particles after a while.
     
  3. rirakuma

    rirakuma Tele-Meister

    Posts:
    234
    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2010
    Location:
    Brisbane, Australia
    Can you explain what you mean by this?
     
  4. chippertheripper

    chippertheripper Friend of Leo's

    Posts:
    2,226
    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2010
    Location:
    Fhvn ma
    The metal filings from the frets I'm guessing. Because they're probably softer steel than your typical knife edge.
     
  5. rirakuma

    rirakuma Tele-Meister

    Posts:
    234
    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2010
    Location:
    Brisbane, Australia
    Ah I thought thats what he meant. I think they wash away with water but I would probably chuck it out and buy a new one if I get the feeling its no longer flat.
     
  6. Colt W. Knight

    Colt W. Knight Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Age:
    37
    Posts:
    18,971
    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2007
    Location:
    Garland, Maine
    And those cheap sharpening stones will wear out quickly. Just make sure its flat between fret levelings. You can reflatten those stones buy placing some sand paper on plate glass and working the stone back and forth.
     
  7. SacDAve

    SacDAve Poster Extraordinaire

    Age:
    69
    Posts:
    7,343
    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2009
    Location:
    Rocklin Ca.
    I just made a fret leveler out of a piece of scrap granite counter top. Cut a piece 2”w 24”L ¾” thick. I glued it on a piece of 3/8 ply. I just use spray glue to attach 600 grit wet dry on it. I used one time it worked great. It is a little heavy and if you drop it or when I eventually drop it I’ll bet it will break. Might check with some local counter top fabricators probably would give you piece might even cut it for you. Myself I had a piece of scrap from my kitchen I just used a dry cut diamond blade in my Skill 77 and cut it myself using a straight edge as a guide
     
  8. aunchaki

    aunchaki Friend of Leo's

    Posts:
    3,049
    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2006
    Location:
    Central New York
    As Ron Kirn mentioned in a similar thread, these sharpening stones can get loaded up with fret metal and they can begin to become un-flat with use.

    That said, if you don't have access to scraps of Corian or granite, this could be a great base on which to put the sticky-backed fine sandpaper. In other words, don't use the sharpening stone to actually do the cutting/sanding, but use it as an affordable long-flat surface.
     
  9. rirakuma

    rirakuma Tele-Meister

    Posts:
    234
    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2010
    Location:
    Brisbane, Australia
    Sandpaper on em is prob the best idea. Granite isnt easy to get here in Australia, I have no idea where to get scraps of one and I assume the local hardware store will charge quite a bit for em. Thanks everyone :D
     
  10. Commodore 64

    Commodore 64 Friend of Leo's

    Age:
    45
    Posts:
    4,235
    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2010
    Location:
    Kent, OH
    If you could find one that was flat, stayed flat and was 18 inches or so it would be great!

    I can't trust myself or my skills to use something that won't hit every fret, all the time. I tried to cut my friends hair once when I was in high school, that was a disaster.
     
  11. SacDAve

    SacDAve Poster Extraordinaire

    Age:
    69
    Posts:
    7,343
    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2009
    Location:
    Rocklin Ca.
    Hears another idea: Get a piece of glass silicone it to a piece of wood, you might find a local shop that has a nice thick piece of scrap they can cut for you and sand the edges. Silicone might not work you might ask the glass shop how to attach it. Myself I always wanted to get some thick aluminum and have it milled nice and flat.
     
  12. Colt W. Knight

    Colt W. Knight Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Age:
    37
    Posts:
    18,971
    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2007
    Location:
    Garland, Maine
    I used a piece of maple jointed flat on one side for years. Just glued some emery cloth on with spray glue and went at it.

    [​IMG]
     
  13. Davecam48

    Davecam48 Friend of Leo's Ad Free Member

    Age:
    72
    Posts:
    4,924
    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2009
    Location:
    Queensland Australia


    If you go to a cabinet shop which does kitchens they will have scraps or will tell you who does their granite/corian tops. I live in Bundaberg and one local "Marble" place here has acres of the stuff just in the yard waiting to go to the dump. I've now got sanding stones and flat plates for gluing up tops and backs.


    DC
     
  14. JCJCJC

    JCJCJC Tele-Holic

    Posts:
    611
    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2010
    Location:
    Ireland - mid-west
    Granite is an igneous rock, ie it is cooled lava from a volcano. I don't know anything about the geology of Australia but if there weren't volcanos there tens of thousands of years ago, you're not going to find any granite. It's common enough here.
     
  15. guitarbuilder

    guitarbuilder Telefied Ad Free Member

    Posts:
    23,185
    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2003
    Location:
    Ontario County
    Yes, the softer metal particles imbed in the stone as the other guys mentioned.
     
  16. Kennedycaster

    Kennedycaster Tele-Afflicted

    Posts:
    1,223
    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2009
    Location:
    Mesa, AZ
    I use a sharpening stone for fret leveling exclusively. I've never had a problem. However, I always use a few drops of light oil before & after each use, I use a light touch when leveling & I give the stone a shot of compressed air when finished to help extend the life of the stone. As others have said, they will load up over time, but are cheap to replace.
     
  17. richinva

    richinva Tele-Meister

    Posts:
    359
    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Location:
    Rice, VA
    Even tho' I have access to granite, corian, marble, etc., I did the same thing. Easier for me to handle, plenty of heft, and straight.

    For the OP: Lots of stones are not flat out of the box, so don't trust that that one is.

    Rich
     
  18. Colt W. Knight

    Colt W. Knight Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Age:
    37
    Posts:
    18,971
    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2007
    Location:
    Garland, Maine
    Its also easy to clean the glue off, you just run it over the jointer bed one time.
     
  19. Rob52

    Rob52 Tele-Holic

    Posts:
    811
    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2009
    Location:
    South of Melbourne, Austr

    +1

    Check out your local kitchen cabinet or bench top makers, someone is bound to have offcuts they are only going to throw out anyway.
     
  20. StuH

    StuH Friend of Leo's

    Posts:
    2,515
    Joined:
    May 12, 2006
    Location:
    Yukon, Canada
    Think ya might be confusing granite with ryholite. Granite is not volcanic in origin.
     
IMPORTANT: Treat everyone here with respect, no matter how difficult!
No sex, drug, political, religion or hate discussion permitted here.