28 years ago today...

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  1. TheGoodTexan

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    ...the Metallica “Black” album was released.

    I owned the previous four albums, and I remember being confused after my first several listen-thrus of Black. I mean, it was heavy for sure. And I was happy that they got the bass right. But it was like they wrote that album for non-Metallica fans.

    That feeling quickly wore off for me, and I saw them several times on that subsequent 5 year tour of that album. They’ve sold more that 16M copies of it today, and I think it still stand strong. But that feeling didn’t wear off for everyone. Still a lot of people who say their best work was prior to Black. I think Ride the Lightning is still my favorite.

    Metallica Black

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    It’s a great album. I think they’d done stronger songs, but the way they change moods, and bob rock's production suits them. And without it, there’d be no Metallica today. This might not offend some people.


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    Ride is a great album but I’ve always liked And Justice for All the most. The Black is meh.
     
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    Im old as #$!!.

    I still think of them as a modern metal band.

    28 years since black..

    I think that was one of the last videos on MTV if I recall
    before they went drama.
     
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    "Master of Puppets" was their first cassette I bought of theirs at a Caldor in Upstate NY. And as a teenager, I was disappointed they sold-out on "And Justice for All", a video on MTV from Metallica?!? Heresy! "Black" was a good album though, they were just evolving, the good bands do to stay relevant.
     
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    They owe the hugeness of their career to Bob Rock.

    Otherwise they’d still be the kings but kings of what ? A small hill that contains Anthrax and Megadeth ?

    Sad But True and Enter Sandman are elemental - like they’ve always existed .

    Just like the best AC/DC songs.

    The Black album got someone like me , who loved prog, punk and Sabbath into Metallica.

    But, since it also is the big breakout for them, the guys into them from the beginning are gonna roll their eyes at the record that brought a bunch of newcomers into the fold.

    It wasn’t just “their thing” anymore.

    You know how many fans of other bands have felt the exact same way about when “their band” got big ? :lol:
     
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    Great album and tour. That's where I came in.
     
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    By the end of that tour, Metallica was one of those bands that was tighter in a live setting than could ever be captured on a recording. They literally toured that album, with ZERO new material, for five years.
     
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    Kill 'em All, Ride the Lightning, and Master of Puppets are better overall albums to me, but there are several tracks on And Justice for All and the black album that bring it home. I'm not a huge fan of Load/Reload and later albums, but their sound is unmistakeable, and I just saw them again a year or two ago on tour for Hardwired... to Self-Destruct and they were amazing as always.

    Their evolution as a band has been a crazy journey around the bass player with the tragic death of Cliff, the rise and fall of Jason, Bob's foray on bass on St. Anger and subsequent touring with them, and their continued evolution with Rob.
     
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    If I remember correctly I think I went to a midnight release at tower records. It's really been 28 yrs?
     
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    Cassettes and Caldors...yup, we're old.:D
     
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    I never cared for this album. After Justice they really had nowhere else to go as far as heaviness went. Maybe they just aged out of it.... they were all grown men with mortgages and divorce attorneys to pay for by this time. Decent songs, but the rawness and snarl that made me a fan was gone.
     
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    I don't go deep into metal - I more or less dabble. This album, and Megadeth's Cryptic Writings, are about as heavy as I get.

    Good stuff though - but in full disclosure, I don't have any of their earlier works.
     
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    i like the demos better than the record i think
     
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    you guys are funny - grown men discussing a record released 28 years ago like it was something that even mattered today. Don't you know that pop music doesn't last?
     
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    Hands up how many people read the title to Sgt Pepper?
     
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    I liked that album, it was pretty proggy at times. I admit it was the first Metallica album I listened all the way through because I borrowed it on CD from someone.

    I didn't like what came after that album though.
     
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    We wanted thrash, and Slayer already outdid Metallica so it was no biggie. I liked the album back then don't get me wrong, but I could live with and do live only by the records before this.
     
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    I loved Metallica, but I thought I'd pretty much chalked it up to my youth when I saw this on cable.



    Hopefully the link works?
     
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    On a lighter nerdier side - who remembers the online Lars parodies of "Napster Bad...Beer Good?"
     
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