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Discussion in 'Other Guitars, other instruments' started by BorderRadio, Feb 18, 2020.

  1. BorderRadio

    BorderRadio Poster Extraordinaire Silver Supporter

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    Well, I pre-ordered a new 2020 Epiphone SG Pelham Blue Special, the P90 thing that was supposed to kill upon delivery.

    The bad news is the pickup routes on mine were bumched and there were at least 3 dead-note frets. Everything else was hella bada$$ for a neck diving guitar. I really liked the almost green tint on the blue too.

    Along came the President’s Day sale at GC, and well, I just went Gibson instead. Before this, I tried all the Pelham Blue Gibby SG Specials in my cities, and they all had bad rosewood, you know the kind that looks like a Pau board that Indian Laurel can easily surpass. Yes, I prefer dark rosewood, but it’s rare. That’s just me. I passed on all those on sale, @$1099.

    I exchanged the Epi SG for a blowout LP Special DC in cherry, and you know what? This was the way to go @599. No neck dive, no dead notes, all the P90-wraparound tone and the rosewood was dark. Some minor tooling marks, sure, and a slightly skinny neck but it’s got some shoulder and width so I don’t notice. I’m happy—this thing is getting some DeArmond Model 2000 clone/Gabajo pickups....why not? :)

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    Pelham Blue always grabs me but I can’t resist a DC Special/Junior...

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    The 2020 updates to Epihpoen made me excited, but 3 dead notes is kind of worrying.

    The models I was looking out for were the Firebird, and I sure hope that one doesn't have any neck dive.
     
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    Yeah, I’m hoping it’s just a lemon. I was eying the Firebird too, but it’s better to wait until you can test out the actual guitar, as I was able to with the Gibson DC Special tribute. The new Epi’s are ‘Special’ but QC will make or break this line-up—they have the Squier CV standard to live up to, IMHO.
     
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    Well, it sure looks good, but we have to take @BorderRadio at his word about what it feels/sounds like (until a clip is posted).

    The "new" epi headstock looks good, too.

    Peace - Deeve
     
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  7. Dan German

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    Pelham Blue is nice, but I’d still always go Special/Junior over SG any day. Very pretty!
     
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    Not surprised that the Gibson C trumps the Epi. Much as I love SGs, the DC looks better-made. I think a lot of bargain Epis are false economies, really. I'd rather spend more upfront and get a better guitar that I will enjoy day after day after day.
     
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    You did well!
    I am in a bad LP GAS period so yes, double cuts rule! What a beauty... :cool:
     
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    Huge upgrade there, imo.

    Congrats!
     
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    I just grabbed a Pelham blue single cut LP Special with zebra hum buckers and a stopbar tailpiece for $599 brand new at GC. 7.4lbs. Plays like dream. I asked why it was tagged so low and the answer was Gibson changed the line so even though it was new and current year, it is no the latest thing, so they had to clear it out. Works for me. Especially because I had several pedals to trade so my cash out of pocket was under $200.

    The stock pickups are really nice but I have had a jones to try the Duncan Saturday Nite Specials. So it's at my local shop getting those installed in exchange for several more pedals I wasn't using. And setup with 11s, a bone nut, a 1m audio taper neck volume pot and 500k audio taper bridge volume pot, and treble bleeds. Even with the value of the upgrades I'll be well under a grand for a US made, set neck, nitro rocker. Everyone wins.

    @BorderRadio - I don't always like cherry but that one is really nice. Leaning walnut a little. Nice dark board too. Enjoy!
     
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    The Epi feels and sounds great, those P90s are great at what they do, no surprises there. The dead frets however are something I can’t ignore on any brand new guitar at any price so back it went. The neck was nice, not as chunky as the 2019 PB Gibsons I compared against, but close enough. The Gibsons all neck dived, and the Epi was actually not too bad. If I kept the Epi, I’d move the strap button to the ‘devil horn’, something I’d hesitate to do to the Gibson.
     
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    Some of the You Tube reviewers are starting to do vids on them and finding lots of QC problems with the frets and finishes.
     
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    I like that new head so much better, and yes, because Pelham!
     
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    Were the dead notes high frets?
     
  16. Dan German

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    So Epiphones are becoming more like Gibsons! :D
     
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    Nice Les Paul! Glad it ended so well!
     
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    Man that blue is gorgeous. Too bad on those frets. Trogly bought almost the entire line to review. Quite a few issues, frets being one.

    I just get can't passed that PG on those DC's & Specials. Too odd a duck looking. They look like Maestros.
     
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    A new Gibson for $599? Great deal. It looks quite handsome too. I never met a P90 I didn't like.
     
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    I'm surprised people aren't hating those with a vengeance. Among the 70s Gibson haters' complaints were:
    1. volutes
    2. bolt-on necks
    3. front routing with pickguards
     
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