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2020 Affinity Tele - total obduction

Discussion in 'Squier Tele Forum' started by Sotakoira Musti, May 14, 2020.

  1. Sotakoira Musti

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    Just got me a 2020 Affinity Tele. Serial CSSC20xxxx, made in March 2020.

    The design has changed a bit, as we all know, so I decided to take it apart to see what’s going on inside. Hopefully someone finds this even remotely useful.

    So here it goes.

    The box:

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    The wrap:

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    Off with wrap:

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    Moment before dismantling:

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    Serial etc:

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    The tuners, 10 mm hole:

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    Another picture:

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    Ferrules:

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    The bridge, string spacing is 52 mm:

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    Under the bridge and pickguard, neck with humbucker cavity, both pickups ceramic, bridge with metal plate:

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    To be continued...
     
  2. Sotakoira Musti

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    Control plate with mini pots and cheap switch:

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    The neck cavity:

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    Neck with stamp:

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    Nut width ~41 mm:

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    Body thickness:

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    So there you have it. If you’ve got any questions or want some excact measurements or photos, feel free to ask.
     
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  3. Sotakoira Musti

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    Oh, the jack plate and jack was missing, can be seen in this one:

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    Btw, I changed the pickups while putting this one back to one piece. These came from 50s Vintera:

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    Had to carve the pickguard pup hole a bit, Vintera was about 2 mm wider than original.

    When I compare this to CY (Yako made) 2019 Affinity Strat, the build quality is much better. Body feels solid and screws hold up nicely, which can’t be said about CY Strat.

    Only thing that seems subpar is tuners. They feel a bit wobbly. Well, maybe they’ll settle.

    Edit: the fingerboard is a maple slab. No skunk stripe.

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  4. bgmacaw

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    Measurements of the control plate and cavity would be useful, mainly to know if it can easily accommodate a non-PCB board switch and full size pots.
     
  5. ping-ping-clicka

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    thank you very much. I really appreciate your taking the time and effort to do this.
    I received my Affinity minty mint in last month and and was curious about how to go about modifying my neck guitar , and BOOM, HERE ARE THE SPECS , THANKS AGAIN.
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  6. Sotakoira Musti

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    Good call! Okay, at your discretion.

    The plate is about 16 cm long:

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    Cavity: 14 cm x 2,7 cm. Depth at the deeper ends 3,6 cm, at the middle 2,6 cm.

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    The pot shaft holes are about 7 mm:

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    And the cavity will fit a CTS-pot, but you’ll probably have to change the plate, because the shaft won’t fit in to the holes:

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  7. jfgesquire

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    Some things look great, like the fret ends on that Maple cap neck.

    But oh my! are those neck mounting screw holes crooked!

    That means that the 4 screw holes on the neck are way off and at an angle, too.

    There will likely need to be plugging and redrilling if you want to swap necks.

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  8. Sotakoira Musti

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    Yep, I noticed the same. Way off!
     
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    I hope you at least played it for a couple a minutes ...
     
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    It looks like the carve starts behind the glue line, so the sides of the fretboard are flat all along? Many of the Squier Strats cut an acute angle from the front face of the fretboard back removing a significant amount of wood off the rear shoulders even though the width and depth are within 0.5-1.0mm of MIA/MIM. On the Strats the edge also feels like a knife edge. Some of the Squier Teles match the MIA/MIM style and some match the Squier Strat style, so I always need to look as I like the chunkier necks a lot more.

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  11. Sotakoira Musti

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    Couldn’t take a proper photo, not gonna happen with phone. Should use SLR with macro...

    Well, anyways, the carve of the neck profile starts very gently before the glue line. So there is somewhat of a shoulder.

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    That's some really good fret work. Lightly rolled edges, the fret is set back from the actual edge, and the tang is set back and filled.

    Very impressive.

    The ONLY downside I see, is the crooked neck screw holes. Pots, switches, saddles can be seriously upgraded for cheap.

    This is alder? What a bargain starting point.

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  13. Sotakoira Musti

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    I think it’s alder.

    Even the good people @ Fender don’t seem to know what models they’re producing or selling:

    https://shop.fender.com/en-US/squier-electric-guitars/telecaster/

    They still have the older top-loader models listed.

    Thomann OTOH (didn’t buy there) has some of the new CSS-Teles available with new pictures, so one can imagine the specs are up-to-date:

    https://m.thomannmusic.com/fender_squier_affinity_tele_mn_aw.htm

    It did cost me less than 200€s, so a bargain it is!
     
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    A tapered reamer can enlarge those holes. Price it vs a new plate. At least with the reamer you will have an additional tool in your toolbox.
     
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    Interesting. My 2017 Affinity does not have through body stringing, the bridge pu route is for a single coil only and the bridge pu does not have an induction plate. But the pots on mine are full size and work very well, no need to change them. Some changes then.
     
  16. Sotakoira Musti

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    Okay guys. First major upgrade:

    Tuners and electrics. One succeeded, one not quite.

    The parts:

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    The tuners are Gotoh SG381-05LC.

    6th changed:

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    Direct drop in. Only on 1st the hole for screw was bit misaligned. But nothing that some elbow grease couldn’t fix.

    The happy outcome:

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    Had some difficulties with electrics. Bought Allparts control plate, 2x CTS solid shaft 250k pots and knobs. Of course Switchcraft jack included. Had some cloth wires and mustard style caps already at home. Too bad didn’t remember to buy a 3-way.

    I had one 3-way around, came with AV ’59 strat. Well, there’s your solution! But for some reason it was a somekinda mirror image of all the normal Oak Grigsbys and CRLs I’ve seen. So a hour or two of trial and error. Finally had to put the original import style switch back until I can get my hands on a proper one.

    Why no gut shots? I ran out of rosin, so my soldering was atleast horrible in the end, while trying to switch jumpers back and forth.

    Okay, the plate went in quite nicely, a little offset on the holes:

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    And in the end:

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    The tuners are magnificent compared to the original. 1:16 ratio and no slack/looseness whatsoever. And just drop them in, no modding needed. Highly recommended!

    Edit:

    Link to the tuners in question:

    https://g-gotoh.com/product/sg381/?lang=en
     
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    The switch looks fine. Just because the lugs may be right side further forward or left further forward doesn't matter, the lug numbering is still the same. Look up breja tone works on YouTube, the guy does some great wiring tutorials.

    CRL 3 ways, with tax and shipping usually come out to $15 minimum; not a cheap upgrade.

    FYI... Still a sweet guitar. I recently paid more for JUST an MIA Telecaster body than you paid all in! I just can't bring myself to buy a new guitar to take it apart. I get it.... I just can't do it!

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  18. Sotakoira Musti

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    Yep, you’re right. First I just looked at some schematics and tried to mirror it. Then started thinking by myself (a big error) and tried to figure out how the jumpers should go. And running out of rosin (in the end had 1 cm left), I had to call defeat.

    The switch ”upgrade”, well if I’ll stumble across one I’ll get one. Original works just fine. Just wanted to do the whole show.

    I don’t think this Tele as a ”new” guitar, but a mod platform. Trial and error, and lots to fuss about. And if someone of you can get some advise about what’s inside, even better.

    My 2 main Teles are keepers as they came from USA and Vintera ’50s is good with CS 51 nocaster pups. So, this one will be my playing ground!
     
  19. Sotakoira Musti

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    Oak grigsby installed and some resoldering. Still a bit of a mess, but works nicely. Next stop will be cavity shielding.

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    Looks nice.

    Good to know that newer Squiers already have deeper control cavities. I had to use quite amount of power drill, chisel and knife with my early 2000 Standard Tele.. to get enough space for full size CTS pots + an Oak Grigsby switch. It doesn't look very nice under the hood anymore, but it works. Also had a push/pull CTS pot there for awhile, but burned the pcb when soldered some wires back and forth. Plus, there was way too little room left for the wires. So, lesson learned.

    Great, informative photos!
     
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