2014 Build Challenge Rules Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Tele Home Depot' started by TDPRI, Feb 6, 2014.

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  1. TDPRI

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    I'm assuming you mean the Cabronita Class. Yeah that could be clearer - non-standard as in "not a standard telecaster pickguard." A better way to restate that is: Anything BUT a standard Telecaster pickguard.
     
  2. Kent Wilkinson

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    Thank you
     
  3. Jupiter

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    I'm assuming that if a store-bought, 2-piece body blank is out, a store-bought, 2 piece maple top is also out. Is that accurate?

    In which case, I have to cut this thing in two and glue it back together next month.... :neutral:
     
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    kissTheApex Tele-Afflicted

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    Seems so. one bean asked a similar question and was told he can't pay someone to cut a piece of wood for book matching (post 198) so i'm pretty sure anything doesn't count as raw wood would be out..
     
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    At least mine's a simple do-over. ;)
     
  6. TDPRI

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    If you guys don't want to make all of your guitars by yourselves you should simply not enter the Challenge. That's what the Challenge is all about.

    You can still build your guitars - just not as part of the Challenge.

    Think about it - the goal is to see you take a pile of wood and turn it into a completed guitar. Not to see you pay someone to make something you can fashion into a guitar and we'll just skip those steps in the build threads. If that was OK then you might as well just have the shop make the body and neck while they are at it. A line has to be drawn somewhere.
     
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    Thanks. I agree; just confirming. The only place in Japan I know where to get a maple board has 'em already glued together, is all. I'll get to sawing. :)
     
  8. Onebean

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    Hopefully this is my last question. I am considering a chambered body with no F hole. I asked on the the forum, if a chambered Tele existed outside of the custom shop, and here's the answer I got.

    http://www.tdpri.com/forum/telecast...r-ever-produced-chambered-tele-no-f-hole.html

    For the beginners class, can I build a chambered body Tele with no F hole? Thank you for your patience on these questions.

    Onebean
     
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    Here is the answer to your question - the rules as written:

     
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    The key word in the rules is "shape".
     
  11. Onebean

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    Ok, thank you. I should be ok if I go with a chambered body. I just didn't want to get disqualified on a technicality.

    Onebean
     
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    The "Keyword" is not "shape".

    So, I'm not sure I'd pay any attention to that.

    You don't need a ruling from me on this. You can follow the rule and if you do you cannot be DQ'd. However, if you don't follow the rule expect to be DQ'd.

    I would add that I think the key phrase is - regular production. FSRs and NAMM shows are not regular production. And, "line" is not meant to be that they were built on the production line - but that they were part of the regular production line of products offered for retail sale.
     
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    I think I'm still ok. By the response in the linked post, chambered Tele's were normal production at least 2 different times. Is that your opinion?

    Onebean
     
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    I had seriously considered entering this year, but with the complexity of the rules and the snippy tone, frankly it doesn't sound like a bit of fun. I'll just watch, and post my next build in a thread of its own.
     
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    If you have a reference of a standard production model Telecaster that is similar to the build you are planing - in the beginner class -- then you are within the rules.

    The rules are pretty clear, and I've clarified them in that standard production models do not include Custom Shop, FSRs or NAMM builds.

    But I'm not going to make a ruling on your question because the rules answer your question for both you and me.

     
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    What exactly is so "complex?" They are the most open rules ever. If your afraid of the challenge then don't do it. But please don't bash Paul for doing his best to not get pressed into a loophole by stupid "what if I....." questions.
     
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    Sorry if you see my questions as stupid. I'm just trying to keep from getting DQ'd because I patterned my Tele off a model considered by the Administrator as a none production model.

    Onebean
     
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    So enter the open class....fixed
     
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    ^ this.
     
  20. Mojotron

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    Guys - the difference between the open and beginner classes is pretty significant.

    Ya - someone correct me if I'm wrong, I think the rules are clearly talking about the outside of the guitar - what can be seen - chambering is inside the guitar. Except for the VRI class, I think if your talking about making a chambered tele without an f-hole I would think that's totally within the rules for the Beginner Class as it's just going to look like a production shaped tele when your done.

    The Open class is not a great option - IMO - if you are not ready to make a neck too. I think making a body first - if you have not made one - would be a good first and logical step as it's the way most of us did it.
     
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