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2003 Epiphone Sheraton????

Discussion in 'Other Guitars, other instruments' started by Spider Dave, Feb 16, 2021.

  1. Spider Dave

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    I've got a chance to buy a stock 2003 Korean (Samick) Epiphone Sheraton (5 piece neck) at a decent price - with plans to upgrade later. I've always wanted one since playing a few in shops. I'm partial to the tobacco brown burst too, as opposed to the black for a change. I regret passing on ones I had the chance to look over personally, but I didn't have any money at the time. I do have a Hagstrom Viking that I love, but I want something shorter scale as my fingers are getting older.

    I've read all over the place on the Sheratons for a solid week now, but I can't find anything specific on the early 2000's. It seems like they either end up discussing the ones before late 90's or they talk about or compare them to the much newer ones. Some people ask what the best and worse years were, but I don't really find what I'm looking for.

    Does anyone own a 2003-ish or have any experience to offer about these years in general or what to look for? Like crooked tuners, etc. I've read about issues with bridge replacements as the sizes can vary, but I've found sites that talk about drop in replacement options or saddle replacements. So unless I got that wrong, I shouldn't worry about it,.. right? Do these different bridges mean different string spacing too? Just wondering what to expect, I'm not familiar with Sheratons. I'd like to find one I can hang onto for a while, even if it means passing on this one for now. Hopefully you guys can help me make a better decision whether to check it out or not as others are interested too. It's a bit of a drive to get there, or I probably wouldn't ask.

    Thanks in advance and for reading, have a good one!
     
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  2. Milspec

    Milspec Poster Extraordinaire

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    Korean builds had better components, China versions have better appearence....at least that has been my experience with Epiphones. I prefer the Korean models all the way.

    The one caveate is that they can be all over the place regarding quality control, so you really need to play them to find the good ones, but the good ones can be very good.
     
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    24 track Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

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    all i can say Is I love mine a lefty at that , my only issue is ( my fault i havent fixed it yet) is it drifts in tuning and is sensitive temperature , I used live for an out door thing we did and I had to swap it out , it was a hot ,hot 30 C day and the guitar did not like that much , so it needs a proper set up, ( dont tell fendergyrl she'll smack me on the back of my head for being lazy)

    I took the guard off for safe keeping

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  4. Crafty Fox

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    My Sheraton was made in Japan and is an excellent guitar, but I have also Korean Casino and Emperor and they are also excellent. I play my Casino mostly.
    I'm very happy with my Korean Epis.
     
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    I luv the look of Sheratons but don't like the 5 piece neck.

    I tried a brand new one and, not only cud you see the lines down the neck, but u cud feel them too. I think they wud get worse with age n temp changes, too.

    Maybe that doesn't bother some ppl?
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    I have a Samick '99 blonde. Everything's great about it except the muddy pickups that might get changed one day. I did put a Les Trem II on it and locking tuners though (and removed the guard for safe keeping :) )
     
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    Thanks! Sounds like it could be worth looking into. I figured it was going to be a maybe, with some good and some bad, was curious if my odds were good enough to take the drive. Gona be a while before I'll have any more play money after this, so I'm hoping to make this one count where possible. There was so little mention of that year, I wanted to make sure it wasn't a bad yr for Epi or something. I was considering an Ibanez equivalent and still want to, but I keep coming back to a Sheraton for some reason. Does this 2003 I'm considering, generally have what's considered the thinner or thicker neck?? Maybe that's more the 90's models and back?
     
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    NICE pic by the way!
     
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    I've played them in shops, they are excellent. The only minor issue is the finish seemed fairly thick. To me 335s have a specific sound, with a midrange shout and I would look for pickups that would work towards this if the originals don't do it. Maybe 57 classics or a paf type.
     
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  10. sudogeek

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    I had a 2004 Chinese Sheraton which was excellent. Needed a pickup swap, a couple ot pots replaced, etc. but finish and fretwork were good. I sold it eventually because the neck was thinner and narrower than I like. I ultimately sold all my 335 style guitars because I came to prefer a smaller body size. As others have said, the workmanship is variable; if you find a nice Chinese one, they’re every bit as good as the MIK and MIJ examples.
     
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    To me the five-piece neck is a big plus. It will be very stable.

    I think they are a great deal if you are looking for a 335 style guitar.
     
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    My first Epi, was a '93 or so ( new) Sheraton, absolutely beautiful Sunburst, but as I would find out ( did not notice right a way) a complete dog!

    It had a 'rubber noodle' neck that would shift string pitch if I put any real forward pressure on it, playing chords.
    Drove me crazy!
    I tried truss rod adjustment, lowering/raising tailpiece, going up a string gauge, and even doing the 'backward wrap' of the strings going over the tailpiece. Nothing worked.

    Also the pickups were too hot- they were only clear ( treble) if Volume knobs were all the way up. I'd lose any high end as soon as I backed off guitar volume.

    Sold it after 3-4 years, It just wasn't being played much- the Fenders got the gigs!
    A really frustrating guitar- it was a beautiful imposter. ( impostor?)

    I would move on to other ( some better) Epiphones ( 335, LP, Casino) and sell all, usually as I needed $$.

    Got a 2018 Epi Cherry SG Pro last year, and it ( finally!) is fantastic! Love it, Just took 25 years!

    Edit: it was the 5 piece neck on the Sheraton- just 'very bendy'
     
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    I am the original owner of an early 2000 MIK (Samick) Sheraton II. I kept it bone stock for a good 5 years and then did the whole 9 yards with 5Os wiring. Still running the original nut though. I love the neck and this is now my main guitar and signature sound. Quality has never been an issue whatsoever. I didn't like the glitzy stuff and almost didn't buy it just because of that, but loved the neck and the way it sounded. I finally made some cosmetic changes to reduce the glitter. The one thing that bugs me the most is the canoe paddle headstock, but the guitar is very well balanced and it is relatively superficial. It is heavy at 9.5 lbs, but worth the heft IMO.
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    The Korean ones with the more ornate "tree/vine" inlay on the headstock are popular. Especially with the Gibson name on the truss cover. I forget what year mine was, but probably 1990's. It was very heavy guitar, nice craftsmanship. I lingered forever on CL, I got it for $350 with hard case.
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    I had a Korean Sheraton (Samick) and the craftsmanship and attention to detail was better than any of the four Gibsons I've owned. The pickups however were so-so and very microphonic, so I ended up replacing them, and swapping pickups in a semi-hollow ain't fun.
     
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    China version here. But...
    upgraded pups to Classic '57 Gibsons, bone nut, threw some .011 on and now thrills me! Great guitar!
    Still longing for a '62 version (the one with slimmer pups)...
     

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    I bought a Made in Korea Sheraton II in the early 2000's, and I still have it. It's a great guitar! It has done a lot of work for me over the years in different projects, and I've kept it stock the whole time. I really don't have any complaints about it.
     
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    I have a 2001 (Samick made) blonde Sheraton II, and it's a great guitar. I can't comment on the original Epi pickups as I bought mine used, already fitted with Gibby Classic 57's and a completely revised wiring (pots, switch, caps, wire, jack). I have changed the nut to a Graphtec and slapped a Gotoh bridge. Couldn't be happier with it, and it cured by ES-335 GAS for far less money. It sounds good and is a joy to play (nice maple neck, and very stable, thanks to the 5 piece construction I suppose which is a plus to me). And, mine is not heavy to my standards (8.4 lbs).
     
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    Thanks everybody! You've given me a lot to consider here - more than expected. It does have the Gibson truss rod cover that was mentioned. Sounds like this could be good bones for a build. If I get one stock, down the road I'd replace the pots & harness, adding 57's or Seth Lovers as a safe bet. Hopefully it's tolerable until I can afford that. The neck flexing is a big concern for me, but I think I can check that for the most part. Just wish I had something to compare it to or played enough of them to know more, but that's why I'm here to learn.

    Last year I put a pair of Pearly Gates in a Les Paul style guitar, adding new pots and harness. I was under-whelmed with the results. I know they have potential of sounding great, so I haven't given up. Hmmm,... maybe they'd sound better in a Sheraton.

    Wish I'd done this sooner. I've learned a lot here, thanks again.
     
  20. hnryclay

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    Really think you might love an Ibanez, and I have played both the Epiphones from Korea, and China in the Sheraton II, model. They are nice guitars, I have not played the Japanese version. I honestly could not tell a difference between them, but I might not be the most picky person in the world. What I could tell a large differnce i was the Epiphone Sheraton II vs. The Ibanez AS 93 FM that I ended up buying. The Ibanez is a good looking guitar with legit pickups. The same pickups that are in the top of the line Ibanez semi hollow bodies are in the 93 model. This is a huge upgrade compared to the Epiphones, and they are around the same cost. 20210130_135315.jpg
     
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