2/3 confused about Strat pickups

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  1. Dan German

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    There is no such thing as a humbucking or noiseless pickup for Strat. Not in my world. :D
     
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    Also on my radar…
     
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    RWRP means reverse wound reverse polarity. It's a reference to how one pickup is wound compared to another. There's no such thing as an RWRP pickup.

    Pickup A: wound clockwise with magnets charged North up

    Pickup B: wound counter-clockwise with magnets south up

    This is reverse wound reverse polarity. This is hum canceling. In the old days pickups were all wound the same direction with the same magnetism, and this caused them to him. To fix it you reverse the wind on the middle pickup so when the two pickups are on together you have RWRP. Either pickup on its own will sound however it will sound on its own. In phase or out of phase also means nothing if you only have one pickup selected.

    EDIT: I think I'm seeing the confusion. I never suggested using two "RWRP pickups" - my suggestion was that the OP use two pickups wound reverse from each other to get the hum canceling. So whereas your suggestion was to use a neck and bridge out of a set of RWRP pickups, my suggestion was to use either neck/middle or middle/bridge. Or just find any two ol' strat pickups that are wound opposite.
     
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    I just look at it this way - take a known good stock Strat, and drop the middle pickup, and rewire it for a 3-way switch, and rewire the middle pickup's tone pot to be for the bridge pickup.

    So, if dropping the middle pickup in an existing Strat is all that you're excluding, then what does that leave you with? Just the neck and bridge units from any given set.

    If having position 2 of the pickup selector (3-way) means you want hum canceling, only then might it complicate things a little. I've got too many 2 pickup guitars that either didn't offer this, or the two pickups that I chose by different vendors didn't allow for it, so I'm just not concerned with it.

    Anyway, that's my advice, FWIW. I actually do rewire my Strats as illustrated above.
     
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    RWRP means reverse coil wire wind and reverse top magnetic polarity. Just reversing the leads of two similar pickups won't make them RWRP.
     
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    And where exactly did I say that? I see you've highlighted my post red. I wasn't referring to flipping the wires, as I never said that. I said reverse the wind. As in "when you manufacture the pickup wind it the opposite of the other (reverse the wind)
     
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    I well remember "the old days" and my Strats are still like that. :D

    I'm not confused about what they are or what they do. just by your original statement which makes no sense at all.

    as only the middle pickup of a set of three Strat pickups is RWRP.
     
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    Nor mine.
     
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    "So I'd find two Strat pickups that are RWRP"

    Yes yes. I see where I lost you now. My wording wasn't clear. What I meant while trying to type on my phone was "find two strat pickups that are RWRP" from each other.
     
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    And that would have made sense. I still wouldn't bother though.
     
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    A big +1 on this friendly and wise advice!!
     
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    Middle and either of the others. That way if it is RWRP, you’re covered.
     
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    And I would. A perfectly fine difference of opinion.
     
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    They are not all the same. You will need the middle for sure for hum cancelling. the bridge will have shorter leads and wound a bit hotter. I made a Duo Sonic with balanced output and RWRP and did not care for the tonal pallet. The guy that bought it loved it. He is mostly a rhythm player, if you want to cut through the mix with leads I would suggest the bridge and middle....you must choose, Obi Wan...have fun
     
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    What set are you looking at Dan? You could probably use whichever pickup you want in any position. It can’t be wrong if that is how you decide to set it up for you application.
     
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    You didn't mention polarity, which is a necessary half of the RWRP equation.

    Reverse the leads in a Strat pickup reverses the wind - it's one in the same.

    However, just reversing the leads won't make any single coil RWRP. You also need to flip the top magnetic polarity in order achieve an RWRP mode for one of two pickups.

    By themselves, wind direction and magnetic polarity for a single pickup guitar (i.e. - Esquire) have nothing to do with tone. Introducing another coil changes everything.
     
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    Strat pickups?
    Pick two!

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    I would choose the neck and middle pickup, or have the bridge and middle pickup next to each other in the bridge area(middle on a on/off toggle) and neck pickup in the neck position using a 3-way switch.
     
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    I would look at what sort of sounds you want, or else state what Strat set you are choosing from.
    Do you want a classic stratty sound?
    Or a good bridge & neck sound from Strat shaped pickups?
    Bridge for Rock leads?
    Funk rhythm?
    Country Tele bridge sound?
    Gilmourish?
     
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