1996 MiJ strat - 50 Anni - Fake or Fortune???

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  1. Benrob91

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    Hey guys,

    so I’d really appreciate some help on this one. Being sold locally is.a...

    “White Fender Stratocaster. Japanese made. Manufactured in 50th anniversary year (1996) and based on a 1970 model with large headstock. Has transitional Fender logo.”

    Asking around the £500 mark.

    Wondering if you can help me out, as I have little knowledge around Japanese strats, but love the look of this one.

    Thanks in advance,
    Ben

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  2. beagle

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    That's a very nice looking ST-67. £500 is a fair price.
     
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    That looks great and the price seems more than fair. MIJ guitars from that era are very well-made but the electronics might be lower grade than US guitars. My neighbor has an MIJ Strat from the late 80s and it's a very solid guitar. I have a MIJ Tele from 93 and the workmanship is basically as good as it gets. But on both of the guitars I just mentioned, the stock pickups are very cheap and generic sounding. Upgraded in both cases
     
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  4. Dacious

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    Will be basswood body. Can't see any alarm bells. I had a 68 CIJ Strat that was natural but otherwise was a clone of that.

    The 96 50 Anni hookah means nothing. Every Fender and Squier in that year got it and it makes no difference to value.

    It will have alnico magnets and the pickups aren't bad sounding but very mild. Very clean and glassy sounding.
     
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    That's interesting. I just posted about my neighbor's MIJ Strat from late 80s. It's a heavy guitar. I don't know the weight but it's the first thing anyone would say when they pick it up, "oof that's heavy". I would just assume alder?
     
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    If you can see grain all through the body it's ash or on some cheaper models Sen. Some sunburst Teles like bound Customs had alder veneers on basswood cores. My guitar teachers Donahue was like that. Inside the cavities it was white. You could see the glue joint line below the binding on the sides. Great guitar. Very Iively.

    He had a brick red MIJ Strat that was also basswood, and the studio he worked at had a white MIJ Jazzmaster that weighed a ton but had little pockmarks constantly appeared all over it. Some basswood is softer than other bits

    Nice guits nonetheless. The Jazzmaster sounded great.
     
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  7. Matthias

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    Looks OK from the outside. No one is really faking those MiJ decals of the 50th Anniversary stickers so no reason to be overly suspicious of the neck. That’s not to say nothing has been changed or replaced on the rest of it.

    I presume the irregularities under the serial is a build-up of dust, not a raggy edge to the pocket finish? I see that ragginess more on refins from people masking too close rather than the factory, but as I said, looks more like it might be dust.

    Price is good if all original. As said, likely basswood not alder and small pots/cheap switch, if that matters, but might be useful knowledge if you look inside. MiJ Tele and Strat pickups on the reissues were OK. Nice looking guitar.
     
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    100% legit, at least from pictures

    That’s one of my dream guitars, I can tell by the headstock and how it isn’t the “correct” shape of a mia fender that it’s correct

    Two string trees (also vintage incorrect but how fender Japan did it)

    It all adds up

    As @beagle mentioned it’s a ST-67 and kind of uncommon, I’ve seen U.K ads when they were released that would often mention Hendrix or call it a Hendrix model although Jimi was more associated with the CBS logo models 68-69

    That’s a great price!
     
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  9. WingedWords

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    https://www.whitstableguitars.co.uk/

    UK specialist in importing Japanese guitars. Have a browse to get an idea of prices maybe? Or find something similar if you miss out on that white 96. I've found him a fair chap to deal with. Twice!
     
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    My original USA '79 Strat has 2 string trees. I purchased it new so I know it is factory correct. But maybe this was a feature of the late '70s?
     
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    Indeed

    two string trees appeared in around the middle of 72, in the same time period as the 3 bolt neck

    So for a 60’s reissue it’s incorrect, surprisingly since fender japan is know for being pretty accurate

    On that model they got it all mixed up, even has a pre 63 style pickguard

    That’s just how they are, I’d really like one
     
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    Looks legit to me, and $703 US isn't a bad price at this time.

    I'd snag that guitar if it were me, as it's a very good looking guitar.
     
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    Looks Legit to me too.

    Not sure if that is a popular/valuable enough model to warrant fakes so I’d have no worries about that.

    I see no red flags saying it’s been modified or otherwise devalued.

    Play before you buy.
    Rock on.
     
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    Love the looks. When I was a young man I didn't like the big headstocks. Now I do.
     
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    Guys thanks for all the responses! I went to pick this up this evening, it's a stunner.

    The seller bought it in 1996, one owner, been in a case most of it's days. Very "factory" feel, needs a good set up and a bit of a clean, but on the whole, it's immense.

    For £500, a class A purchase in my opinion... I believe it's based on 70's, as we've said, I'd love to find out more info on it, but right now it's for playing!

    I thought it felt lighter than my other strats, but on comparison, it's pretty similar.

    Top guitar. Thanks all!

    @FortyEight @985plowboy @Texsunburst59 @Fretting out @Crafty Fox @WingedWords @Matthias @Dacious @effzee @beagle
     
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    As I said earlier, it's an ST-67, based on a 1967 model, you can tell by the heel adjust truss rod, headstock logo and string trees, without taking the neck off.
     
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    Nice guitar, but the price is perhaps too high, IMO. Those ought to be $500 guitars if clean and original, or maybe $650 if SUPER clean, with a quality Fender hardshell case. As nice as MIJ Fenders of that era are, I wouldn't stretch to $700, even for a near mint one with a Fender HSC. I say this as someone who has owned innumerable MIJ Fenders, starting with my 1985 model that I acquired in 1991 (and still have, along with a handful of the cream of the MIJ crop I've owned over the decades). The sad catch-22 about them is that their weak point is the electronics...yet changing out the electronics devalues them.
     
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    Beautiful guitar, nice find and hide part of that serial number next time.
     
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    Guitars and especially used guitars are expensive in the UK. It wouldn’t be uncommon to see something like this listed over £600 and a shop might try and get closer to £900 based on the fact this is an iconic look for a Strat and maple caps are a rare spec. I don’t have a lot of interest in 90s MiJs thanks to some of the cons listed here, but they’re getting surprisingly collectible.
     
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