1972 Tele, What Do You Think?

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    Okay I’ve mentioned this guitar in a couple threads already and am puzzled about some things and have a few hazy details this guitar belongs to my father (on permanent loan) and he’s not sure about most of it being at the time he bought it he was just a player that couldn’t tell the difference between a tele and strat bridge (nothing against him he focused on playing and not specs) and this tele was just a tool.

    Anyway what I know of the story he told me is he was coming out of a music store around 1980 when someone he knew told him he had a tele for sale, apparently this tele literally sat in a barn in a box in pieces.
    He had always wanted one and I think he said he gave the guy 150 bucks for the guitar .
    After it’s acquisition he took it to a buddy that painted cars and had it sprayed in white imron ( those who don’t know its rock hard and indestructible machine paint)
    Then reassembled it wiring it out of phase by accident.
    from what he told me everything on it other than the schaller tuners were included in the sale.
    I think the bridge pickup is a replacement (odd in 1970’s) maybe someone more familiar with 72’s can confirm this
    I know the bridge is a brass replacement which was common then have no idea if brand.
    The neck pickup might be original without cover? Again someone here might be able to tell me more
    And the pickguard seems extra dark for some reason but is original fender
    If anyone notices anything about it they can tell me it would much be appreciated

    Sorry about giant pictures i tried to fix them

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    They look like they might be Schecter pickups, they were a very popular replacement in the '70s along with brass bridges.
     
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    I always thought the bridge pickup looked like a Seymour Duncan quarter pounder but I don’t think it was available.
    It’s funny I actually thought about Schecter because they made brass bridges like the one that’s on it.

    Is it possible the neck pickup is original?
    Would a fender neck pickup be staggered?
    The neck pickup has the Same thin plastic wires coming off it’s terminals that the pots and switch are wired with

    Did Schecter mark their pickups then?
    I’ve never taken the bridge off
    Did Schecter stamp any marketing on their bridges?
     
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    The bridge looks a lot like the Schecter replacement one on my 70s hard tail Strat.
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    Very interested thank you for the picture
    Do you have a full shot?
    I love hardtails !
     
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    Sure
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    It's no lightweight: a little over 9 lbs

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    It's a 76, 3 bolter big head. I bought it for £100 in 1980 i have no idea how it got so much wear in those 4 years. The dealer is still a friend and shows up at most of our gigs. Sadly he has no memory of its history.
    Here it is just after I bought it. Happy days!
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    And that Peavey C30 along with the extension cab rocks!
     
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    The pickups do look like 70's schecter pull the bridge and the pickguard and have a look
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    "The neck pickup has the Same thin plastic wires coming off it’s terminals that the pots and switch are wired with"

    The neck PU does look more like a stock pickup with the cover removed, the Schecters had 1/4" magnets. I don't recall any markings on the Schecters that I removed from a '60s guitar I got in the '80s, but they were shielded and had 1/4" magnets. There weren't many aftermarket manufacturers in those days. I think Seymour was still just a luthier/tech doing a lot of rewinds and had his little ad in GP mag, something like "Send me your pickup and $50 - Seymour Duncan". Dimarzio had a Tele bridge PU called a pre-BS but it didn't have the big magnets as I recall. Not sure when Mighty-Mite came into the picture but they had a lot of brass hardware and a few PUs as well. That's about all I can remember about that stuff
     
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    Schaller also had big mag single coils. I had one in a Heritage dated April '86.

    I don't know how much earlier than that they were making pups.
     
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    Cut the excess string so we can actually see the headstock. ;)
     
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    I know that’s a lot of people’s pet peeve;)
    I left them like that because at the time I was low on strings and if one broke on a more favorable guitar I could swap them off the 72.
     
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    I was a little off on the date that my father acquired it (c.1982) although I don’t know if adding an extra year would make any difference in determining what pickups were available
     
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    Okay I spoke with my father yesterday and got some extra details clarified about his tele.
    And he also told me back then people just played their guitars and he wasn’t obsessed or concerned about the parts as long as they worked.
    Anyway I thought it was in pieces when he bought it, he told me it was fully assembled with everything it has on it now except the tuners he replaced (He thinks)
    He said it was almost unplayable when he got it as the neck screws were stripped he Repaired the holes and the neck remains stable to this day.
    It wasn’t stored in a barn like I thought, but came out of a horse stall in a stable that the guy who sold it to him had.
    He said that when he bought it the headstock did have the original logo but chipped off (apparently chipping all of the headstock finish off, he never sanded or stripped off the headstock) he thinks the pat. Number decal still visible is the replacement he put on.
    He also said the body was a natural ash did fender even sell natural finished guitars in 1972. ( I don’t know if his idea of natural is blonde)
    And he spent about $120 at the time which he said he only went that high because it was a “FENDER”
    Something cool he told me about it’s history which isn’t related to Teles but is interesting is that the guy who sprayed it for him in c. 81/82 also recently did the upholstery in his trans am.

    I don’t know what you guys think but I kind of think it’s imron paint is an interesting spot in its history and probably would never refinish it, and you can see all the grain through the paint it’s gorgeous.

    Once an instrument is refinished it’s never original again so would refinishing a second time even add any value to it?
     
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    There were a lot of natural Northern Ash bodied Fenders in the '70s. Many ended up refinished or painted over. Stripping the thick original poly was a major PIA. A refin is a refin as far as value goes. The Imron is part of its story and if you are happy with it that's all that matters.
     
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    6468E208-6CA1-4246-A6CA-8EE930CF28AF.jpeg ECC8DC60-A1A4-4F42-88EF-501702820FFC.jpeg Is the bridge a replacement or just the saddles? The neck looks kosher. Any chance of a look under the hood? Here’s a photo of my latest acquisition. A 1976 Tele which has needed a fair bit of surgery after it was butchered by the previous owner. Just needs stringing up, like the previous owner.
     
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    Yeah the whole bridge assembly is a brass replacement. My father seems to think it was there when he bought it and replaced by the original owner. If you stop back by the thread in a couple minutes. I’ll try and post some guy shots .

    I usually don’t like any old tele past late 72 but yours is pretty sweet looking and at least has the original tuners it looks like :)
     
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    Here’s some gut shots, does anyone know why it would be missing the diagonal route?
    And why does the switch have 2 capacitors?

    I like how in the 4th picture you can see the grain of the ash through the imron paint even though it’s a little thick by today’s standards.

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