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Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by schmee, Apr 10, 2019.
Why do we never hear sonic booms anymore?
I still hear them - I live about 20 miles from Centcom - however, thankfully they are becoming more infrequent.
Then why are you reading this? Get on over to the perfect pick thread.
i was minus 1
Ahh...1960. I was 9 for most of the year. I remember riding my bike wherever I wanted to. Of course, all my friends lived within about 2 miles so I didn't have to go far. Tree houses built by kids that kids had no business ever getting into. VERY unsafe. Swimming in a local creek that kids had no business being in. VERY polluted. Playing war in the woods with BB guns. In the summer leave in the morning but be home for dinner and then back outside. Just be home when the streetlights come on. And the biggest thing that year was the Pittsburgh Pirates beating the NY Yankees in the World Series. My favorite player, #9 Bill Mazeroski, being the hero and hitting a 9th inning homer in Game 7 to win. That's one I'll never forget!
Yeah things were certainly heatin' up!
My take on Giant Steps is Coltrane was just nailing how to play the saxophone.
I mean he played like his predecessors with his personal touch for a while, and I find Trane with Miles sadly boring.
Then he jumped all over the instrument and beat it into submission for a year or whatever, changing his approach to the instrument.
During that time he hadn't quite gotten free of the instrument and immersed into purely music.
My favorite; Let me put it another way; the Trane that most knocks me out started to appear into the early '60s. I actually disliked my favorite things for years but grew to enjoy it. IDK I'm no historian, though I did do some homework.
I've forgotten the dates of the changes but I was buying all his vinyl in the '80s and just felt that '59 and '60 he was not yet who he was to become.
Made some stupendous music before he nailed his life work, and maybe that earlier stuff is more commercially viable, which isn't a slight, though it comes off that way.
It's like he reached a point when he stopped performing for us and started performing for himself. That's the stuff that knocked me out.
My most listened to albums are Expression and First Meditations for Quartet.
I sort of started at the end and worked my way back, gradually getting used to his more conventional Jazz. ATM I have three (?) of each on vintage vinyl since they do wear out!
Interesting article though, I only had time to skim it but will go back when I can relax!
Yeah if the news of today pops up here the thread might be gone.
I think we can be sort of classy and subdued in a historical discussion though, and it's tough to prevent undertones without extreme censorship.
I mean music and culture are almost impossible to separate, and if we must, some of us may not want to be here any more.
Guitars aren't that interesting without musical, social and historical context!
I was 13 in 1960. My father was at Guadal Canal and among the first troops to go in and occupy Japan. He didn't talk about it a whole lot, but WWII seemed like such a long time ago, just like speaking of the Cival War. Big things for me that I remember was Kennedy being elected and the Pirates beating the Yamkees in the greatest World Series ever. Bill Mazeroski's bottom of the ninth homer; right up there with Franco's Immaculate Reception. I was a country boy and didn't have a care in the world. I trapped muskrats and I had a 0.22 rifle too, and could just walk out back and shoot it. Great times.
My birth year
I was a Mars Bar in my dad's back pocket in 1960. My brother was a bun in my mum's oven.
I was 8 and we had moved back to Carswell from Ramey. Dad was a left seater in B-36s and was retiring as a full bird
Skateboards made with a 2x4 and adjustable skates, being outdoors as much as possible, biking to wherever you wanted to go, a huge slot car facility (5 or 6 tracks), learning about gun safety, & having, almost, not a care in the world.
I recently saw a guy in the local hospital who had been on the escort carrier Gambier Bay during the Battle of Leyte Gulf. When it was sunk he spent three days in the open ocean fighting off sharks before being rescued.
Sometimes I think America coasted through the 50's and 60's due to the momentum generated
from individuals such as these. But we're rapidly running out.
Dang there's a bunch of us Air Force kids here. I was born at Carswell and my dad was a radio operator on a B36.
I thought about WWII for sure in '60. The wounds were still quite fresh in our little town. Also from Korea. Veterans Day and July 4th really meant something ... a lot of emotion shown. I was a little guy, but understood early on that some of the people I knew had been through a great deal, and lost a lot.
I remember allocating crackers and cookies out of the civil defense emergency barrels
in the church basement.
Well depending on who you were and where you lived maybe they did.
Depending on what you looked like your experiences in 1960 were not the same as the privileged waxing poetic.
. . .never mind. . . .
Right, because 1960 was great for everyone in America.
1.) All those guys in WWII were beyond heroes. Omaha beach ? Fuggedaboutit.
The Pacific ? None of us can even imagine. We (and the world) owe them everything. Literally everything.
2.) However, if you were to go back and talk to those heroes about personal beliefs 90+% of them shared - we’d be repulsed, and some of us shocked.
But - we’ve moved on somewhat from those days and definitely in that regard we’re better as a society.
“The good old days” can and should be in front of us.