Supertwang
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An Eminence Ragin’ Cajun goes very well with a Celestion 10/30. I have a 4x10” cabinet with 2 Celestion 10/30 and 2 Ragin’ Cajun placed diagonally and it will go from a sweet clean to a narly overdrive
10” Speaker-68 Custom Vibrolux Reverb
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Supertwang
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The only Neo speaker I’ve tried was a 12” Celestion Neo Creamback and I couldn’t dig the real toppy treble response in a Deluxe Reverb. I almost always go with Weber AlNiCo drivers,…I love the slightly rolled off treble response as I’m treble sensitive and also love the VOCAL timbre AlNiCo speakers have,…they really SING. If you want early breakup buy low wattage drivers and if you want higher clean headroom buy higher wattage drivers
Yes it does but P10R low and mid volume chime is sweeter. I think only two P10R won't handle the power a 6L6GC PP amp produce. Tweed Bassman has four P10R.
1028K handle more power but I think two of them don't allow full power use neither.
Obviously speakers which have synthetic voice coil formers do not burn but they do not sound good when driven close their power rating power.
Blackbird 40-10 is expensive but its useable amp power (Jensentone loudspeaker recommend tool) rating is 20W so two should be quite happy in your amp.
It’s possible the Jensen has slightly more chime at lower volume but also sounds much thinner in my experience. The 1028 has plenty of chime, and the breakup is much more pleasing. I don’t find it to be too quick to crunch and I play clean 95% of the time.
Hossius Maximus
TDPRI Member
I’m down to:
Jensen P10R
Henson C10r
Eminence 1028
Can both Jensens handle the 35w power?
Jensen website: Developed as the ceramic version of the P10R, for low-powered studio amps, the C10R is revered for having been the speaker of the Blackface Princeton, the Princeton Reverb.
Eminence 1028:
I need some decent headroom.
Does it break up too early?
Jensen P10R
Henson C10r
Eminence 1028
Can both Jensens handle the 35w power?
Jensen website: Developed as the ceramic version of the P10R, for low-powered studio amps, the C10R is revered for having been the speaker of the Blackface Princeton, the Princeton Reverb.
Eminence 1028:
I need some decent headroom.
Does it break up too early?
InstantCoffeeBlue
Tele-Afflicted
I'd skip all of the reissue Jensens, but that's just me.
In my opinion there are better versions of the original low-powered Jensens than the ones currently bearing the brand name. The Emi GA10-SC64 and 1028k, for instance.
In my opinion there are better versions of the original low-powered Jensens than the ones currently bearing the brand name. The Emi GA10-SC64 and 1028k, for instance.
This Jensen tool succest R-coil speakers only up to 12.5W each. Your 6L6GC push pull produce about 40W clean power. 1028K handle more power but nowhere even close to 35W. If you never use full power then they are OK.
If you want 10" Alnico consider Blackbird 40-10". I have few BB40-12" and it very good speaker.
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InstantCoffeeBlue
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This Jensen tool succest R-coil speakers only up to 12.5W each. Your 6L6GC push pull produce about 40W clean power. 1028K handle more power but nowhere even close to 35W. If you never use full power then they are OK.
If you want 10" Alnico consider Blackbird 40-10". I have few BB40-12" and it very good speaker.
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2 1028ks = 60W handling.
I think for all but the most extreme cases, that'd be an acceptable margin for a 35W Vibrolux. Certainly better power handling than many of the speakers the vintage ones came with.
2 of the 20W GA10-SC64s seems a little dicier, but for someone who isn't playing on ten and using fuzz pedals, it might be fine.
Hi!
I found that the Jensen C10Q (reissue) covers a good "middle ground".
It has more "oomph" (headroom) than the "R"-models, retains the "vintage" feel and sound - and is not overly loud.
cheers - 68.
Yes, a pair of these Jensens (P10R/C10R) or Eminence will handle 35 watts.
The Jensens (P10R/C10R) will probably break up a bit sooner than the Eminence. However, all of these speakers won't give you a lot of headroom. They all break up quite early.
I found that the Jensen C10Q (reissue) covers a good "middle ground".
It has more "oomph" (headroom) than the "R"-models, retains the "vintage" feel and sound - and is not overly loud.
cheers - 68.
JRapp
Tele-Afflicted
A pair of used RI C10Q are pretty decent if they've been well broken in...new, not so much.
Tony65x55
TDPRI Member
I'm playing classic rock n roll in outdoor concert venues to indoor venues. I've had the P10Rs in for 6 years without a single issue, in fact, the longer I play them the better they sound. Great sound and as a bonus they are super light. Keeps the Vibrolux weight down to that of a chunky Deluxe Reverb if this matters to you.
gabasa
Tele-Afflicted
If you're looking for a chimey, vintage 10" speaker, in my experience you'd be hard-pressed to find something better than a Weber 10A125, which has a beautiful chimeyness to it. I'd personally get the 20W version with no dope from Weber and ask them to do their break-in procedure to get a head start. Just be patient and give it a chance to play at band volumes to properly break in because they're pretty bright when they're new, and you'll be rewarded.
The 10A125 is popular and well-loved, I don't think you can go wrong with it. I actually even prefer their 10A100T, but it's underpowered for your application.
backporchmusic
Poster Extraordinaire
Well, another vote for Emi GA SC64 10". I put some in my '68 Custom Virbrolux Silverface and they delivered sparkling silverface sound in spades. I tried some greenbacks because I had them laying around, but the Eminence blew them away.
zhyla
Tele-Meister
This may be crazy talk but what if you kept the ten-30’s? My 68 Vibrolux sounds amazing as is, I have no intent on ever swapping those speakers.
I know they’re not supposed to be the best speakers ever but they sure work well in this amp.
I know they’re not supposed to be the best speakers ever but they sure work well in this amp.
Pokey Tele
Tele-Holic
sparkly/chime high (emi 1028K) and tight low (emi 1058) under 6lb each (2.9lbs and 4.4lbs)
This combo works great for "rock/country/pop punk" in my 2x10 SFVR
Hossius Maximus
TDPRI Member
Does the emi 1028 have enough headroom? Website says it breaks up early. Thank you
Pokey Tele
Tele-Holic
Good question--sorry, I can't answer it. I play (comfortably) loud while sitting right in front of the amp--can be heard a bit throughout the house and outside--but not loud enough to break up the speakers with a SFVR (40Wrms into 4 ohms)! In fact, the SFVR may break up before the speakers. Not sure if the '68 Custom Vibrolux behaves the same though.
InstantCoffeeBlue
Tele-Afflicted
I would also expect the Vibrolux's power tubes to breakup well before you start getting speaker breakup.
"Enough headroom" is impossible to answer without knowing your specific situation, but I would say for most purposes in this day and age, yes, whether you have 2 1028s or combine one with a 1058, you'll have ample headroom.
If you really want loud and clean (and heavy), get two Weber !0F150Ts. Love these speakers in a Princeton, but I feel they're overkill in a Vibrolux.
Daanh
TDPRI Member
Jensen P10Q?
Hi!
A little "stouter" are - Jensen C10Q/P10Q, Eminence George Alessandro 10" and Eminence 1058 (in that order).
A LOT stouter are the Weber 10F125 and 10F150.
In fact, I didn't like these because they're so loud and "stout"...
However - I'm with @InstantCoffeeBlue ...
A 40-watt-amp will be LOUD when it starts to break up - and you will be glad to have a pair of speakers that are not THAT loud
cheers - 68.
Yes, it does break up quite early - as do the Jensen C10R/P10R.
A little "stouter" are - Jensen C10Q/P10Q, Eminence George Alessandro 10" and Eminence 1058 (in that order).
A LOT stouter are the Weber 10F125 and 10F150.
In fact, I didn't like these because they're so loud and "stout"...
However - I'm with @InstantCoffeeBlue ...
A 40-watt-amp will be LOUD when it starts to break up - and you will be glad to have a pair of speakers that are not THAT loud
cheers - 68.
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