flag72
Tele-Afflicted
Im looking to see how many tube amp peavey as.I have a classic 30 which is great there's also the classic 50 and delta blues, what other Peavey model amps as tube in them !!!
Other tube amp from peavey
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Northerntele
Tele-Holic
The old classic series are SS pre and tube powered. Great if you want Skynyrd tones all day long. Ridiculously loud and usually can be had dirt cheap.
BobbyZ
Doctor of Teleocity
Maybe there's a web site on them somewhere? I know thay made alot of them over the years but no idea how many.
StephaninMelb
Banned
Peavey Vintage Tweed Early-to-mid 1970s
The early 1970s Peavey Vintage Tweed series 6L6 amps, which most people confuse with the later 90s EL84 powered Peavey Classic series: It was available as a 4 x 6L6GC / 110W with two GE 6C10 Compactron preamp tubes (last type of tubes designed - each tube contains three 12AX7 sections in one tube - popular with a few amp builders like Peavey, Ampeg, Rivera era Fenders). The last Vintage versions went to SS preamp. They had large heavy-duty Schumacher transformers and were VERY loud amps. Peavey Vintage came with a tube driven Hammond long spring reverb. The amp enclosures were covered in Fender late 50s - early 60s style tweed tolex. Essentially a Fender Twin type amp with different sonic signature. Vintages are fairly rare as they were never produced in large numbers. Unfortunately Peavey issued the Vintage Series during the years when SS guitar amps were hitting the market from all the venders. Also in early to mid 70s tweed amps weren't cool (black, orange, green and so on were the rage).
The Vintage came in three combo configurations using CTS horseshoe magnet speakers: 2 x 12, 4 x 10, 6 x 10. The 610 Model was a "beast." I can't imagine how loud it would be with high efficiency speakers! Peavey Vintage were known for having such high output power they could blow out the speakers in the 2 x 12 config using low wattage speakers. They'd be killer amps with any of the Eminence 103 dB speakers. They are a real sleeper amp and available for the price of a Fender Champ. So Twin power for peanuts. People that ratbag them generally have no hands on experience with these. Pete Townsend, (The Who) used a Peavey Vintage 410 for recording sessions.
The 70s Peavey Vintage are currently popular with harmonica players because of their clean & crunch tones. They are fairly well understood in that player segment. Guitar guys are usually misinformed how the Vintage sounds, works, etc and the bias towards Fender amps. Without getting into an argument Vintage are nice amps and usually available underpriced. Look for a good clean example! They have proven to be very rugged amps.
Peavey Vintage
Specifications
Power Tubes
...4 x 6L6GC
Power Output
...110W @ 4 ohm
...100W @ 8 ohm
Plate Voltage
...480V
Screen Voltage
...470V
Bias
... - 55V
Rectifier
...SS Diode
Pre-amp Tubes
...2 x 6C10 Compactron (each 6C10 Contains Three 12AX7 sections)
Speakers
...6 x 10 CTS (Model 610 Combo)
...4 x 10 CTS (Model 410 Combo)
...2 x 10 CTS (Model 212 Combo)
Speaker Jacks
...2
...Main (#1) and External (#2)
...#1 speaker jack is switched
Channels
...2
...Normal
......Higher gain than Bright Channel
...Bright
......Inputs roll off some Bass
Controls
...Volume (Pre-amp Sensitivity Gain)
...Treble +/- 15 dB @ 5 kHz
...Mid-Range (10 dB Cut)
...Bass +/- 15 dB @ 50 Hz
...Reverb (both Channels - Continuously Variable)
...Master Volume (Power section - controls overdrive and sustain)
Switches
...Standby
...Ground lift
...Power with Indicator Light
...Foot switch (Reverb)
Reverb Driver
...GE 6C10 Compactron Tube
...2N4249
Reverb Tank
...Hammond Spring Reverb Mk IV-L - Long Tank
Pictured below Top to Bottom (1) Vintage 212 (2) Vintage 610 (3) Vintage 212 Controls (4) Vintage 410 (5) Pete Townsend Recording with Peavey Vintage 410
The early 1970s Peavey Vintage Tweed series 6L6 amps, which most people confuse with the later 90s EL84 powered Peavey Classic series: It was available as a 4 x 6L6GC / 110W with two GE 6C10 Compactron preamp tubes (last type of tubes designed - each tube contains three 12AX7 sections in one tube - popular with a few amp builders like Peavey, Ampeg, Rivera era Fenders). The last Vintage versions went to SS preamp. They had large heavy-duty Schumacher transformers and were VERY loud amps. Peavey Vintage came with a tube driven Hammond long spring reverb. The amp enclosures were covered in Fender late 50s - early 60s style tweed tolex. Essentially a Fender Twin type amp with different sonic signature. Vintages are fairly rare as they were never produced in large numbers. Unfortunately Peavey issued the Vintage Series during the years when SS guitar amps were hitting the market from all the venders. Also in early to mid 70s tweed amps weren't cool (black, orange, green and so on were the rage).
The Vintage came in three combo configurations using CTS horseshoe magnet speakers: 2 x 12, 4 x 10, 6 x 10. The 610 Model was a "beast." I can't imagine how loud it would be with high efficiency speakers! Peavey Vintage were known for having such high output power they could blow out the speakers in the 2 x 12 config using low wattage speakers. They'd be killer amps with any of the Eminence 103 dB speakers. They are a real sleeper amp and available for the price of a Fender Champ. So Twin power for peanuts. People that ratbag them generally have no hands on experience with these. Pete Townsend, (The Who) used a Peavey Vintage 410 for recording sessions.
The 70s Peavey Vintage are currently popular with harmonica players because of their clean & crunch tones. They are fairly well understood in that player segment. Guitar guys are usually misinformed how the Vintage sounds, works, etc and the bias towards Fender amps. Without getting into an argument Vintage are nice amps and usually available underpriced. Look for a good clean example! They have proven to be very rugged amps.
Peavey Vintage
Specifications
Power Tubes
...4 x 6L6GC
Power Output
...110W @ 4 ohm
...100W @ 8 ohm
Plate Voltage
...480V
Screen Voltage
...470V
Bias
... - 55V
Rectifier
...SS Diode
Pre-amp Tubes
...2 x 6C10 Compactron (each 6C10 Contains Three 12AX7 sections)
Speakers
...6 x 10 CTS (Model 610 Combo)
...4 x 10 CTS (Model 410 Combo)
...2 x 10 CTS (Model 212 Combo)
Speaker Jacks
...2
...Main (#1) and External (#2)
...#1 speaker jack is switched
Channels
...2
...Normal
......Higher gain than Bright Channel
...Bright
......Inputs roll off some Bass
Controls
...Volume (Pre-amp Sensitivity Gain)
...Treble +/- 15 dB @ 5 kHz
...Mid-Range (10 dB Cut)
...Bass +/- 15 dB @ 50 Hz
...Reverb (both Channels - Continuously Variable)
...Master Volume (Power section - controls overdrive and sustain)
Switches
...Standby
...Ground lift
...Power with Indicator Light
...Foot switch (Reverb)
Reverb Driver
...GE 6C10 Compactron Tube
...2N4249
Reverb Tank
...Hammond Spring Reverb Mk IV-L - Long Tank
Pictured below Top to Bottom (1) Vintage 212 (2) Vintage 610 (3) Vintage 212 Controls (4) Vintage 410 (5) Pete Townsend Recording with Peavey Vintage 410
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jh45gun
Banned
Do a search I started a thread a couple of weeks ago that asked folks to list their tube PV amps you will get some answers there.
Gary Mitchell
Former Member
Skynyrd band use to play old Peavey tube Mace amps, my favorite was a Classic 50 410 I played for years. Then traded for a Delta Blues 210, also back in my Christain Metal days the 90s I used a VTM. This was a tube head in the ball park of a Marshall, if I remember they made a 60 watt and 120 watt. They also had a tube amp called a Triump something like that. I don't care for the new Valve King myself, I would rather have the Classic series. I might be trading my Fender in on a Delta Blues 15.
StephaninMelb
Banned
Peavey Deuce and Deuce VT
The “original” Peavey Deuce of the mid-1970s and follow-up model Deuce VT from late 70s and early 80s are real sleeper amps. They both use Four 6L6GC power tubes and output 120W. There are still many players who gig with these amps and they are known for their reliability. Players describe how they are built like a tank. They don't sound like a Fender or a Marshall. A real bonus is that these amps can be picked up very cheaply. Great bang for the buck! Like the Fender Twin, Deuces are over-powered, VERY LOUD and can blow the windows out of smaller venues. The Fender camp might consider the Deuce a mediocre amps, but they can kick many other amps arses. The only real negative is like Fender Twins, Deuces are very heavy.
A really remarkable Peavey customer support trait is that they often over the phone and email still support this 30+ year old equipment. There are a number of reports where Peavey has taken back old Deuces and sorted out issues a extremely low charges. Peavey technicians have even been reported to respond to issues within 24 hours and the company has been quick to send out schematics and manuals. Peavey is to be commended for such a high level of support on equipment out of warranty over 30 years.
A key point of long-time owners is that these amps are super reliable. One thing that should be pointed out is these things have HUGE transformers, so they should be able to run some serious speakers.
A unique Deuce feature is the ability to combine the Normal & Effects channel in parallel or in series. In parallel it runs both outputs to the power stage. In serial it runs through the Normal Channel and then loops through the Effect Channel, after which it feeds into the power amp. This results in large gain increases, but unfortunately drops the volume.
Deuces suit classic rock, southern rock, blues, reggae, brown sound and are not suitable for full on super high-gain heavy metal genres. This amp runs clean at the lower levels and the sonic signature goes towards warm as it is cranked up.
Peavey Deuces were big with large Southern rock groups, such as Lynrd Skynyrd (for example on “One for the Road”) and 38 Special. David Knopfler when he was with Dire Straits used Peavey Deuce VT amps in 1978-79 timeframe.
Peavey Deuce and Peavey Deuce VT
Peavey Deuce (as per below)
Peavey Deuce VT was built from 1978 to the early eighties
...The Deuce VT differs from the Deuce by having Pre-Gain & Post-Gain on the Normal and Effects Channels. Also in place of the Deuces Tremolo is a Phaser with Colour and Rate controls. The single Master Gain was dropped. Speakers used in the Deuce VT series are Eminence Black Widows.
Models:
...212 (2 x 12” combo)
...410 (4 x 10” combo)
Power Tubes
...4 x RCA 6L6GC
Power Output
...120W @ 4 ohms
...120W @ 2 ohms
...90W @ 8 ohms
Frequency Response
...40 Hz to 25000 Hz (3 dB down at each end)
Transformers
...Custom Over-size Schumacher Power (Mains) and Output Transformers
Pre-amp
...Solid-state
Channels
...2
......Normal Channel
......Effects Channel
Inputs
...4 (Hi/Lo for each channel)
...Footswitch operated Normal & Effect Channel Combiner
......Parallel Combiner Mode
Sends input signal through both channels in parallel
In this mode “all controls” are active on the sonic tone
......Serial Combiner Mode
.........Sends signal through Normal Channel and then through Effect Channel
............Adds large amount of gain stages used to create sustain & overdrive
............With Master gain control Power Tube overdrive can be trigged at various volume levels
Switches
...Power (3-way On – Off – On with Ground Lift)
......Pilot light on front
...Standby
Controls
...Effect Channel Controls
......Gain (Pre-amp sensitivity – not volume)
......Treble (+/- 20 dB @ 5 kHz)
......Mid-range (+/- 10 dB @ 300 Hz)
......Bass (+/- 10 dB @ 50 Hz)
......Tremolo Depth
......Tremolo Rate
...Normal Channel Controls
......Gain (Pre-amp sensitivity – not volume)
......Mid-level (+/- 10 dB @ 300 Hz)
......Bass (+/- 10 dB @ 50 Hz)
...Shared Controls
......Reverb Blend (controls amount of reverb blended into output)
......Master Gain (After Pre-amp Section and before Power Tube Section)
Speaker Jacks
...2
...Internal (switched) – 4 ohms
...External – 4 ohms
Footswitch Jack (DIN connector)
...Footswitch
......Reverb
......Tremolo
......Channel Select
......Combiner (both channels active @ once)
Pictures below - Top to Bottom: (1) Peavey Deuce, (2) Peavey Deuce VT and (3) Peavey Deuce VT Head.
The “original” Peavey Deuce of the mid-1970s and follow-up model Deuce VT from late 70s and early 80s are real sleeper amps. They both use Four 6L6GC power tubes and output 120W. There are still many players who gig with these amps and they are known for their reliability. Players describe how they are built like a tank. They don't sound like a Fender or a Marshall. A real bonus is that these amps can be picked up very cheaply. Great bang for the buck! Like the Fender Twin, Deuces are over-powered, VERY LOUD and can blow the windows out of smaller venues. The Fender camp might consider the Deuce a mediocre amps, but they can kick many other amps arses. The only real negative is like Fender Twins, Deuces are very heavy.
A really remarkable Peavey customer support trait is that they often over the phone and email still support this 30+ year old equipment. There are a number of reports where Peavey has taken back old Deuces and sorted out issues a extremely low charges. Peavey technicians have even been reported to respond to issues within 24 hours and the company has been quick to send out schematics and manuals. Peavey is to be commended for such a high level of support on equipment out of warranty over 30 years.
A key point of long-time owners is that these amps are super reliable. One thing that should be pointed out is these things have HUGE transformers, so they should be able to run some serious speakers.
A unique Deuce feature is the ability to combine the Normal & Effects channel in parallel or in series. In parallel it runs both outputs to the power stage. In serial it runs through the Normal Channel and then loops through the Effect Channel, after which it feeds into the power amp. This results in large gain increases, but unfortunately drops the volume.
Deuces suit classic rock, southern rock, blues, reggae, brown sound and are not suitable for full on super high-gain heavy metal genres. This amp runs clean at the lower levels and the sonic signature goes towards warm as it is cranked up.
Peavey Deuces were big with large Southern rock groups, such as Lynrd Skynyrd (for example on “One for the Road”) and 38 Special. David Knopfler when he was with Dire Straits used Peavey Deuce VT amps in 1978-79 timeframe.
Peavey Deuce and Peavey Deuce VT
Peavey Deuce (as per below)
Peavey Deuce VT was built from 1978 to the early eighties
...The Deuce VT differs from the Deuce by having Pre-Gain & Post-Gain on the Normal and Effects Channels. Also in place of the Deuces Tremolo is a Phaser with Colour and Rate controls. The single Master Gain was dropped. Speakers used in the Deuce VT series are Eminence Black Widows.
Models:
...212 (2 x 12” combo)
...410 (4 x 10” combo)
Power Tubes
...4 x RCA 6L6GC
Power Output
...120W @ 4 ohms
...120W @ 2 ohms
...90W @ 8 ohms
Frequency Response
...40 Hz to 25000 Hz (3 dB down at each end)
Transformers
...Custom Over-size Schumacher Power (Mains) and Output Transformers
Pre-amp
...Solid-state
Channels
...2
......Normal Channel
......Effects Channel
Inputs
...4 (Hi/Lo for each channel)
...Footswitch operated Normal & Effect Channel Combiner
......Parallel Combiner Mode
Sends input signal through both channels in parallel
In this mode “all controls” are active on the sonic tone
......Serial Combiner Mode
.........Sends signal through Normal Channel and then through Effect Channel
............Adds large amount of gain stages used to create sustain & overdrive
............With Master gain control Power Tube overdrive can be trigged at various volume levels
Switches
...Power (3-way On – Off – On with Ground Lift)
......Pilot light on front
...Standby
Controls
...Effect Channel Controls
......Gain (Pre-amp sensitivity – not volume)
......Treble (+/- 20 dB @ 5 kHz)
......Mid-range (+/- 10 dB @ 300 Hz)
......Bass (+/- 10 dB @ 50 Hz)
......Tremolo Depth
......Tremolo Rate
...Normal Channel Controls
......Gain (Pre-amp sensitivity – not volume)
......Mid-level (+/- 10 dB @ 300 Hz)
......Bass (+/- 10 dB @ 50 Hz)
...Shared Controls
......Reverb Blend (controls amount of reverb blended into output)
......Master Gain (After Pre-amp Section and before Power Tube Section)
Speaker Jacks
...2
...Internal (switched) – 4 ohms
...External – 4 ohms
Footswitch Jack (DIN connector)
...Footswitch
......Reverb
......Tremolo
......Channel Select
......Combiner (both channels active @ once)
Pictures below - Top to Bottom: (1) Peavey Deuce, (2) Peavey Deuce VT and (3) Peavey Deuce VT Head.
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bleakanddivine
Tele-Meister
A few years ago I made a list of all the PV combos, tube, SS and hybrid.
All with specs and pictures
Here is a link:
http://forums.peavey.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=14659
Jonathan
All with specs and pictures
Here is a link:
http://forums.peavey.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=14659
Jonathan
jh45gun
Banned
Having problems opening it Windows wants to know what program you used so it can be opened?
Lowbassnotes
Friend of Leo's
I have 2 of the Deuce VT series, lifted one on the scale-about 72 lbs. That was the one with the metal center cap speakers and the little "BW equipped" badge on the front. The other one has the paper cone speakers with the square magnet. Whew those things are heavy,way too heavy for me to lift up and down three flights of stairs anymore. Fun to run the ABY pedal into both amps once in a while but they are on strict orders not to leave the music room.
muchxs
Doctor of Teleocity
Oh, goody! Keep hyping the Deuce. I just hacked the chassis outta mine, it's headed for eBay.
See, Black Widows don't age gracefully.
Some maniac with a drill did an Ultimate Hack Job installing casters.
Besides, I already robbed the 6L6s and used 'em in one of my Twins. Sold the footswitch. Yup, they're great amps.
See, Black Widows don't age gracefully.
Some maniac with a drill did an Ultimate Hack Job installing casters.
Besides, I already robbed the 6L6s and used 'em in one of my Twins. Sold the footswitch. Yup, they're great amps.
Lowbassnotes
Friend of Leo's
Oh, goody! Keep hyping the Deuce. I just hacked the chassis outta mine, it's headed for eBay.
See, Black Widows don't age gracefully.
Some maniac with a drill did an Ultimate Hack Job installing casters.
Besides, I already robbed the 6L6s and used 'em in one of my Twins. Sold the footswitch. Yup, they're great amps.
I take it you're not gonna toss the speakers in the dumpster? Funny when I got the "BW" one a couple years back I looked in the back and the 6L6's had blueish green lettering on them that said Mesa STR 415 on them.
muchxs
Doctor of Teleocity
I think one of the BWs is "good", the other one has a dented up dustcap. The dustcap is also the voice coil former.
It's just a big ol' hog of an amp and worth more in pieces than it is whole IMO.
I think mine may have had Mesa tubes in it, too. Keepin' track of which tubes are in which amp over here is like countin' chickens...
It was one of those days when the stars aligned. I had just picked up a Twin w/ JBLs that had the usual mismatched tubes. I think one even had the requisite broken center lug. Next thing I know this Peavey shows up with a nice set of tubes. I figure the Fender needs the tubes more than the Peavey.
flag72
Tele-Afflicted
A few years ago I made a list of all the PV combos, tube, SS and hybrid.
All with specs and pictures
Here is a link:
http://forums.peavey.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=14659
Jonathan[/QUOTE
thanks Jonathan
I was able to open the link awsome research on Peavey amps now I know a lot more on peavey amps/tubes/ year's and all kind of info
jh45gun
Banned
Never had a deuce or a Mace but If they are like other Peavey amps of that period certainly nothing wrong with them.
flag72
Tele-Afflicted
Lowbassnotes
Friend of Leo's
I think one of the BWs is "good", the other one has a dented up dustcap. The dustcap is also the voice coil former.
It's just a big ol' hog of an amp and worth more in pieces than it is whole IMO.
I think mine may have had Mesa tubes in it, too. Keepin' track of which tubes are in which amp over here is like countin' chickens...
It was one of those days when the stars aligned. I had just picked up a Twin w/ JBLs that had the usual mismatched tubes. I think one even had the requisite broken center lug. Next thing I know this Peavey shows up with a nice set of tubes. I figure the Fender needs the tubes more than the Peavey.
Gosh I'm sure you'd prefer a good set of the BW's over the JBL's.......I'd be happy to swap you-I'll even throw in a pack of strings and a box of bubble gum too!
muchxs
Doctor of Teleocity
The amp itself is reasonably solid. They're gettin' old enough that the caps are suspect. The footswitch with the DIN connector is worth as much as the amp. Wally says the channel switching chip tends to blow spit bubbles and is NLA.
The Black Widow speakers have a vent in the middle of the magnet that's supposed to cool the voice coil. There's a piece of foam in there that keeps insects and vermin out.
Hassle is over time the foam degrades to a nasty gooey substance similar to gasket cement. The moving voice coil then burnishes the goo all over itself and the motor assembly. It's a ***** to clean up.Gosh I'm sure you'd prefer a good set of the BW's over the JBL's.......I'd be happy to swap you-I'll even throw in a pack of strings and a box of bubble gum too!
Really? I can't see how you read that from what I wrote.
I have more BWs than I need as it is. If you want to swap a pair of JBLs for the BWs that's more like what I had in mind. I'll even buy you a foot long sandwich at Subway!
bleakanddivine
Tele-Meister
The link in the PV forum is to an Excel spreadsheet.
Sandia Man
Tele-Meister
I have a Peavey Deuce II, basically the same as the Deuce. Massive power, I use it as a bass head -- I unplug the 2 12's and run it into a 400 watt 4 x 10 Hartke cab, drives the heck out of it
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