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Your view on the G&L ASAT Classic tone

Discussion in 'Other T-Types and Partscasters' started by OzDoug64, Nov 3, 2007.

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  1. OzDoug64

    OzDoug64 Tele-Meister

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    I tried out one of these in a shop the other day and thought it was nice.

    Would like to hear what you think, and if you would use one in preference to a Tele for live use.
     

  2. RI G&L

    RI G&L TDPRI Member

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    Nov 2, 2007
    Rhode Island
    Well, I'm new to the board too, after lurking for quite a while and deciding this was a great place to learn a whole lot about these great instruments. I ended up choosing a G&L ASAT after a lot of searching and playing various tele-type guitars. My budget was a bit of a concern, but I ended up with an ASAT Tribute, which I have to say, based on my admittedly limited experience, plays, feels and sounds as good or better than many guitars that were significantly more expensive. I've played it and gigged with it thus far through an Epi Valve Standard, a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe, and a Fender Hot Rod Deville 4x10. For me, the clean, classic Tele tone through those Fenders is priceless, and I think part of the reason we're all a bit obsessed with these guitars!
     

  3. Colo Springs E

    Colo Springs E Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Mar 4, 2003
    Colorado Springs
    I like the Specials better...

    .....the ones with the larger soapbar looking MFD pickups.

    The Classic ASATs have a lot of issues with microphonic squealing bridge pickups, and the MFD ceramic pickup--those small Tele sized ones--just aren't spanky or sweet enough to me. They sound harsh to my ears.

    I prefer Fender Teles to ASAT Classics in general. I'd take a 50s or 60s MIM any day of the week over an ASAT Classic. Again, just my preference.

    G&Ls are usually well-made guitars though...

    -E
     

  4. OzDoug64

    OzDoug64 Tele-Meister

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    I agree with you, the older soapbar pickup model doesn't have that bite.

    The one I'm referring to is the new model with the single coils.
     

  5. Colo Springs E

    Colo Springs E Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Mar 4, 2003
    Colorado Springs
    Don't know if we're agreeing

    ...or disagreeing! :lol:

    I like the ASAT that has the larger pickups. I don't care as much for the one that looks like a conventional Tele, with the smaller pickups and string-thru design. Lot of documentation over on the G&L fan site (www.guitarsbyleo.com) of those Classics having squealing bridge pickup issues with any amount of volume and/or gain--sometimes even if the pickup is swapped. I don't know if it's a design issue or what. I don't like the smaller ASAT pickups--they're too shrill, bright and harsh to me.

    I go back and forth on the larger MFDs. The "Special" ASAT with the large pickups--though it's no longer called a Special--is still manufacturered. I like that version better. But with some amps (Marshalls or solid state amps, in my experience) they don't sound that great either.

    Your mileage may vary...
     

  6. zombywoof

    zombywoof Friend of Leo's


    They were originally just called ASATs - the Special designation was adopted after BBE took over and is associated with ASATs with white pickup covers and a chrome bridge. The Special moniker has, as you said, since been dropped.

    The ASAT Classic has, I believe, the distinction of being the only G&L with pickups designed solely by Leo. The bridge pups can be microphonic especially at high volumes. I know quite a few folks who have rolled both the bridge and bridge pups on their Classics.

    My experience with Classics is that they have plenty of spank and can cut through on stage really good. The neck pickup has more oomph than a Tele's and can sound really smooth. The bridge pup gives ya a brighter but clearer tone but seems to lack the bite on the bass strings that a Tele has.

    The ASAT with the large candy bar pups in not really comparable to a Tele. But I would recommend you give them a spin if you are guitar hunting. I prefer the early maple body versions with older spec MFD's.
     

  7. Telarkaster

    Telarkaster Friend of Leo's

    Aug 25, 2007
    Montreal

    I've read your posts at the G&L site, I thought you were familiar!

    When I went shopping for a Strat I seriously considered G&L. While I was trying out the Comanches, Legacy's and S-500s, my friend pointed out an ASAT with small pickups. I believe it was the classic. It was everything that I was not shopping for: tele body, rosewood fret board, MFD pickups, etc... Well the body had such a nice honeyburst paint job that I humoured my friend and plugged it in. WOW!:eek: What a great sound. Totally different from a Fender Telecaster, it had great highs and lows, almost a 3-D HiFi sound. I remember the neck pickup sounded better than the bridge pickup, there wasn't as much twang as I would have liked but it still sounded good. The neck pickup blew me away.

    I compared it to one with the bigger pickups and they didn't compare. I really preferred the smaller MFDs better, at least on the Traynor amp I was using. The larger MFDs sounded too dark and muddy for me. The smaller ones had a great rock-country sound that was different yet complimentary to a Fender Tele. They broke up beautifully on a tube amp, you have to hear to understand what I mean. I would have bought it but it was a bit pricey and I had my heart set on a Strat. I didn't want to bring home another Tele that would make my own Fender Telecaster jealous! I ended up getting a Casino and a Strat for a little bit more than the price of the ASAT so no regrets, but I still think of that ASAT...

    G&L make excellent guitars, but again they vary from guitar to guitar so try as many as you can...

    To answer your question OzDoug, I think a Fender Tele can make most crappy amps sound good and I know how mine will react so I stick with it for live shows. I didn't buy the ASAT but I can't see how it would be bad on stage...
     

  8. boris bubbanov

    boris bubbanov Telefied Ad Free Member

    ASAT Special versus ASAT Classic

    I think the topload bridge on the ASAT Special is a real tour de force, I love that bridge on my S-500 Hardtail.

    I admit that the ASAT Classic 6 barrel brass bridge is not the best, and I've ordered an enhanced vintage 3 barrel brass from Bill Callaham to replace the one on my ash ASAT Classic.

    I agree the ASAT Special is a real nice professional use guitar, but it borders on not being a Tele in the finer sense of the word. I think of the ASAT Classic as one of the most show ready Teles of all time, if not the most.

    So in looking at and playing ASAT Specials, when I saw the S-500 hardtail that played and sounded so nice, I figured, "if you gonna fall, why not jump?"


    Bubbanov
     

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