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Discussion in 'The BASS Place' started by Wyzsard, May 9, 2017.
Mesa Bass 400+ tube head.
I have done a lot of thinking about the benefits of the amp with the bass guitar. Tube versus solid state and etc. What I really feel is more important is the speakers and the cabinets that are driving them. With the bass falling so low on the EQ and the importance of pushing high air volume the speaker definitely gets a workout.
I had a half stack full of 10" speakers, a box with a 15" speaker and a horn (horn was disabled) and my closed back 2x12. I prefer the 2x12 in most instances but there is something about that 15" speaker that really makes the bass stand out more. As a P Bass kind of guy, that thump just does something for me. Although if I was a Jazz guy the 4x10 might be just the medicine. And the 2x12 just kind of fits in between.
I voted tube just because I picked up an old '81 UL Bassman head and it's become my main bass amp for the past six months or so. I run it through a 2 x 10 cabinet. But I have a Fender Rumble 40 and that works just as well. Not sure tube vs. solid state matters with a bass amp, at least with the way I play it - without distortion.
I like massive headroom, but I don't like trying to carry 300 watt tube amps. Solid state all the way...
GK MB-Fusion or Passinwind PW8B driving a fEarful 12.6 and 12.sub setup. Or an MB-200 driving a custom 2x1x10 rig.
Or on acoustic support gigs playing ABG and a lot of fretless, one of a couple of floor eq/preamps I own, usually a Fishman ProPlatinum eQ driving a QSC K-12.
I can dial up most anything I want in my floor chain. That goes to FoH all the time and so my rig is a monitor for me and the drums. No reason to carry something like an SVT or 400+ for me at this point.
The Mb-Fusion is my fave GK yet. Hard to find a bad sound in it. The Passinwind PW8B is a custom beastie built by a friend. It has a incredibly low noise floor and some intersting bass specific features.
Variable hi-pass with defeat switch
Impedance selection switch for active or passive basses
Single band fully parametric eq switch defeatable
post eq Jensen DI.
Buffered effects loop
Preamp out/ power amp in loop
The rest is gain, bass, middle, treble, master volume plus aux in, SUV volume. The ides was something with on board power (700 watts at 4 ohms) that was also 'mic-pre' clear with nice tone shaping options for recording. He hit it out of the park... pic above is a PW-8 sister to my amp in testing.
I have a Hartke Kickback 12 for rehearsals and more acoustic gigs and a bass stack with an Ashly preamp > Carver Power Amp > SWR 2 x 10H cab > Carvin 1 x 15" cab bi-amping the two cabinets. So, no tubes at all. I have used the Carvin cab with a Traynor Bassmaster hear from the '70's.
This seems to be true of any number of mid-powered amps and combos so how any given manufacturer chooses to rate theirs bears some comparison between different models before buying. Yours wouldn't be the only case of a supposedly much lower powered amp blowing another away Tony. IME I've never known Roland to over estimate what any of their amps can honestly produce.
I've downsized to a single lightweight Class D 250w 1x15 combo that I run with a Zoom pre-amp to access a couple of it's amp models and a few other features and much smaller 75w 1x10 that can be used for rehearsals or unplugged gigs. I could even use the little guy as a stage monitor when going through a good FOH PA. The bigger amp can handle any gig I might run into these days.
Yup, I have one, too, and I agree. For home, jazz gigs and small jams, it is indeed THE BOMB. CS
Gig rig: Markbass Little Mark II and Fender Rumble 1X15 cabinet. CS
Carvin Micro Bass thru home made 1x12 containing what looks like a early Eminence 12", Looks horrible (1/2" butt jointed ply brush painted black w/ kicker box grille) neighbor put it out for the trash along with a vintage Atlas mike stand. Sounds really good I have some feet I've been meaning to put on. Would like a old SB-12 just for fun.