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Yet another first build

Discussion in 'Tele Home Depot' started by zorgzorg2, May 14, 2017.

  1. zorgzorg2

    zorgzorg2 TDPRI Member

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    If I may bump up my previous question: Do I need do finish the guitar first and only then drill the holes for the neck plate, or should I align the neck with the body already now, tighten with a clamp and drill the neck screw holes ?
     

  2. guitarbuilder

    guitarbuilder Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

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    Most bodies you buy unfinished are pre drilled.
     
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  3. John Nicholas

    John Nicholas Tele-Afflicted

    Jun 26, 2014
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    While it seems that everyone has a different idea about what steps go into what order... here is what I do... drill the holes before finishing. I finish the neck and the body, although the last guitar body I painted the bottom of the neck route was covered with tape. This left the base of the neck route without paint. Not sure it makes much of a difference.

    It's not that the finish takes up a huge amount of room, but it does take up some. Depending on your neck pocket routing you may still need a little wiggle room.

    Good luck!
     
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  5. zorgzorg2

    zorgzorg2 TDPRI Member

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    I didn't give any update yesterday: it was rainy, so no woodworking for me. I still managed to fill the gaps under the frets with some saw dust and wood glue:
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    Today was sunny again, so after I went buying some supplies, I manage to do a few things.

    Using my new toy, I drilled the string-through holes
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    It's not as smooth as a drill press, but it gets the job done. I used it too to make the neck screw holes in the body and neck, after having sanding out an armrest:
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    Oh, and my son wanted to help out, so he started shielding the cavities.

    I also had to work on the nut, so that I could set the E and e string, to check the neck alignment. I used the nut string spacing pdf I found here, but must have used is badly: the e seems really close to the edge of the fretboard. Sliding the nut 1 or 2 mm to low string sides looks much better. I will double check tonight that I use the pdf correctly. My grooves were really shallow, so I can make new one without any problem. The next picture, even blurry, you can see the nut is hanging out on the right side.
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    And another pic:

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    As for the neck pocket being too wide, it turns out that the neck aligns best with the body and bridge when the bottom of the neck rests on the bottom of the neck pocket, so all is well :)
     
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  6. zorgzorg2

    zorgzorg2 TDPRI Member

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    Ok, today was mostly cleaning up the body and neck, preparing for painting/finishing. I worked on the nut, and I fear I'm lacking the proper tools. Is there a way around nut files ?

    Other than that, I countersunk the neck plate, which was hanging over the rounded edge otherwise. Much better now :)
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    So, I think I'm ready to start painting, or did I miss something ?
     
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  7. John Nicholas

    John Nicholas Tele-Afflicted

    Jun 26, 2014
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    Looking really good!

    As for the nut files, there are some alternative methods, like using a welding tip cleaner, or short pieces of old guitar strings. But these are so difficult to use in making a guitar nut.

    Do you have a friend or even a music store where someone could cut the slots for you? That might be a better way until you choose to invest in nut files.

    Looks like your ready for finishing. Just checking, did you sand? Then sand some more?? If so, you're ready!
     
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  8. zorgzorg2

    zorgzorg2 TDPRI Member

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    I found welding tip cleaners, so I'll use that, thanks @John Nicholas

    Sanding, yes, I will do again. How fine do I need to go before applying the paint, 250 ? 400 ? 1000 ? 0000 ?
     

  9. John Nicholas

    John Nicholas Tele-Afflicted

    Jun 26, 2014
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    Glad you found the welding tip cleaners.

    For sanding you only have to use 220 or 320. If you go too fine, the finish has nothing to "bite" into.
     
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  10. zorgzorg2

    zorgzorg2 TDPRI Member

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    So yesterday was sanding day, and today I dyed/painted the body. First dye with dark walnut, then sand it, then dye it red. I'm a bit disappointed the (faint) wood grain doesn't come out more. But it looks good still. Sprayed some black on the back. Need do retouch a bit with a brush, but otherwise it should be fine.
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    The black paint is very thin, the grain (or bondo :( ) shows through. Did I use the wrong paint, or will the lacker make that disappear ?
     
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  11. Daniel94

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    If you can see through it I'd say you probably need another coat of black before lacquer. It's looking great! I really like the paint scheme!
     
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  12. zorgzorg2

    zorgzorg2 TDPRI Member

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    @Daniel94 Here is what I meant with seeing the grain through the layer paint:
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    But it doesn't seem like a big deal now :)
     
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  13. zorgzorg2

    zorgzorg2 TDPRI Member

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    So I started putting some clear lacquer, first spray a couple of coats with a can to fixate the red dye, using my spraying booth :)
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    Then some layers of brushed water-based poly
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    Looked good until I started sanding and saw all the grooves...
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    So I'm adding more coats now.
     
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  14. Macrogats

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    That front colour is starting to look amazing!
     
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  15. John Nicholas

    John Nicholas Tele-Afflicted

    Jun 26, 2014
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    The reason for the "grooves" is you didn't fill the grain first. Try not to make the finish too thick.

    Even with the "grooves" it's looking really good.

    And I love your paint booth! ;)
     

  16. zorgzorg2

    zorgzorg2 TDPRI Member

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    @John Nicholas thanks! I'm still working on this, adding coats, then sanding them too thin, starting over... But I think I'm almost there now:using a lacquer brush instead of a regular paint brush makes a huge difference, and then moving to a foam brush makes it yet better. Now applying the clear coats is almost brush marks free, so I don't have to sand down using coarse grit anymore. I'll be trying the final sand down tomorrow :)
     
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  17. NotAnotherHobby

    NotAnotherHobby Tele-Afflicted

    Oct 27, 2015
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    Love the dye job on the top.
     
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  18. zorgzorg2

    zorgzorg2 TDPRI Member

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    OK, first attempt at polishing. Put some brown compound, and it starts shining, all good. But the comes the blue compound and it becomes all white... Am i doing something wrong?
     

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  19. zorgzorg2

    zorgzorg2 TDPRI Member

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    All setup! Still some fret buzz, but the rest works like a charm! I'm still amazed it turned out so good, despite all the mistakes and ugly fix ups...
     

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  20. Daniel94

    Daniel94 Tele-Meister

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    Looks great!! Nice work!
     
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  21. Macrogats

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    Yeah, I love that colour.
     
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