years for JBL Fender speakers?

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  1. jc4yr

    jc4yr TDPRI Member

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    Hey


    I just grabbed an old 79 Vibrolux. It looks a total "barn find". It's been sitting for years. It looks like it was sitting in someones basement (rust on some parts leads me to believe it was in a moist place).

    Anyway... it looks mostly originally except for 2 10" JBL speakers in it? Was Fender doing JBl speakers that late on?

    thanks in advanced.


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  2. LOSTVENTURE

    LOSTVENTURE Tele-Afflicted

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    I know that starting around the introduction of the Showman, around 1963, that JBL's became an option. I can't say how long that lasted, except to note that my 1973 Super Reverb also had JBL's.
     
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    gridlock Friend of Leo's

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    Congrats.

    I bought a 1965 VR about 5-6 years ago and it had similar JBL’s inside.

    Sounded pretty good. Pretty heavy speakers and with very high wattage ratings (150 & 300 watts) as I recall.

    The amp’s tone did improve once I changed out the JBL’s to more vintage correct Jensen’s.

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  4. Milspec

    Milspec Friend of Leo's

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    Although JBL speakers were an option at one time, I don't think the ceramic variations were ever a Fender option. My recent purchase ('79 TWin) uses the 12" versions of those speakers, but I think that was a player's upgrade and not Fender's. I could be wrong here, but I think the JBL connection stopped long before the late '70's.
     
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    gridlock Friend of Leo's

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    I believe that Milspec is correct.

    I’ve been told that JPL’s were popular for country music and stock speakers sometimes changed out for pedal steel.

    Your speakers look to be the higher wattage models.
     
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    Old Tele man Friend of Leo's

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    Those are 'later' JBL labels, they're not what was on FENDER (OEM) installed JBL's.
     
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    You could order JBLs in a Silverface but they would have been orange frame D110's or even K110s in that time frame. If the amp was ordered with JBL's from the factory in the Silverface era they often had a JBL logo in the lower left side of the grill.
     
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    schmee Friend of Leo's

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    Not sure if those black frame JBL's were stock in 79 or not. The orange and grey were done by then I believe... Are those E's or K's?
     
  9. moosie

    moosie Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

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    My '79 Twin, with original D 120 Fs...

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    Those would most likely be E-110 ceramic magnet speakers. “K” are Alnico.
     
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    Old Tele man Friend of Leo's

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    The OEM JBL D110F's in my 1969 Super Reverb have black crinkle painted spider frames.
     
  12. 24 track

    24 track Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

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    I remember seeing Fender catalogs in the late 60's-70's that had JBLs as an option for the amps
    and at some point John B Lancing and James B lancing had amajor fall out one of them left JBL and formed Altec/Lancing which for a short period was also available asan option for fender amps , the price of the amps was considerably higher by a few hundred dollars with the JBL or Altec spkers
     
  13. BobbyZ

    BobbyZ Doctor of Teleocity

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    In general getting accurate historical information on anything to do with JBL, is right up there with aliens and big foot.
    Just try to find the difference between the D131 and D120 speakers sometime. :)
     
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    moosie Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

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    You must mean the D120F, being that there is no such thing as a D120. :twisted::D
     
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    BobbyZ Doctor of Teleocity

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    Good point, but there is a D131 and a D131F, if I remember correctly. :)
     
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  16. 24 track

    24 track Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

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    Here is a price guide for JBL loaded speakers , after CBS bought fender from early 70's , you may need to scale the image to read
    top righthand side

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    moosie Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

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    Yep.

    Not sure if it's all accurate, but is interesting reading nonetheless. If I interpret this correctly, the Fs were tuned for guitar/bass, and the others were more hi-fi, PA...

    I had no idea Fender started with JBL so far back...

    https://pro.harman.com/insights/harman-pro/loud-and-clear-the-story-of-jbl-fender/
     
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  18. Ten Over

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    A joke I presume? I've never heard of John B Lancing, James B iancing, nor Altec/Lancing.

    A company called All Technical acquired James B. Lansing's company when James had fallen into debt and they named the combined companies "Altec Lansing". The deal contained a five year non-competition clause for James. After the five years was up, James left and formed his own speaker company. When Altec Lansing objected to him using "Lansing" in his new company, the company changed its name to JBL. That's how my EE prof in college told it, anyway.
     
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    24 track Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

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    I love it when I am corrected from bad details , becuase I get to learn instead of hear say,
    anywho this sounds more like it!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JBL
     
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    I tried a vintage JBL in my 67 Princeton....just sounded too clean for me...I had to go back to the Jensen speaker that was in it...
     
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