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Discussion in 'Just Pickups' started by grolan1, Mar 14, 2019.
If I ever get a Strat, my answer would be no.
The most I've spent for a set of pickups is $320 for a pair of TV Jones T-Armonds, so I'm no stranger to high dollar pickups. But these were for my $2100 Gretsch 6120DSW, and they really made the guitar much better tone-wise (versus the stock Gretsch pickups).
I can see paying good money for pickups IF they deliver the tone and performance you seek. I really do not care if a person hand wound them or they were fabricated on a machine with a robot. If they're good, they're good. If there are cheaper alternatives that sound good, then the market respond accordingly.
No. Lindy fralin pickups are the top of my price range, and in reality, I've gotten some really nice sounding foreign alnico V pickguards loaded already for $50 (two or three pickups and a pickguard).
There are hand winders in russia and probably in the US who do really nice custom pickups and provide the spec for $30 a pickup or so, too.
I don't think anyone will be paying extra for those fender pickups in fifty years because nobody will know what they are and the guy won't be a current pickup winder, but I'm sure people call fender asking for more exclusive parts, and they need to have that pricing tier and line to service it. A simple single coil pickup is just a really weird place to go high dollar.
The basic Fender Alnico V sets that used to come on the American Standard series of strats from the mid-90’s to early 2000’s or so. The ones before they started using Fat 50’s. Terrific and really versatile strat pickup set. Easily found for $80-90, with patience $60-70.
No....don't think they would help me....every Strat I play sounds the same when I get done with it...
True, people seem perfectly willing to drop $600 on a set of super perfect PAF clones, and I bet they're not even hand signed.
No way no how
For £450, I could rig something up and get enough raw materials to learn to wind my own...
But if I wasn't a chronic tinkerer and they were going in a £3k Custom Shop guitar, why not?
Because a fool and his money are soon departed.
Not defending that, either - but there's a lot more to a good paf than a single coil pickup, and there seems to be a gaggle of hand winders who aren't making pafs because of it.
Everyone has their preference, but I've never heard anything better than the duncan antiquity for a vintage paf sound, and I've never heard hot pafs better than tokais hot MK2s - so I'm not a buyer for expensive pafs, either.
I don't know who buys that stuff - are there recording guys who are looking for something really specific that producers prefer, or are they going to corner office purchasers?
There are more parts to a PAF, but there isn't much more to them. In fact the steel parts tend to homogenize them, because the high permeability and conductivity, relative to single coils which can have steel or different grades of AlNiCo in their cores, which results in a wider range of variance in Q factor and magnetic strengths. That why you never get "Stratitus" with PAF clones, they have a much narrower operational range, even if you stick a double thick ceramic in there.
Also I don't think PAFs were ever hand wound, either. The famous Leesona winder they used had its own traverse. So now they talk about how magical the Leesona's traverse was, and how it makes a PAF sound so heavenly, yet machine wound single coils still get pooped on, because guitarists are such a logical bunch.
A bargain at twice the price!
Okay, maybe not exactly, but IIRC, a friend's Custom Shop Mary Kaye Strat has a set of pickups wound by this woman, and they are UNGODLY good. If I had another Strat to drop some pickups in, I'd buy them with gusto (my fiancee would understand the two months of Ramen-Noodle-dinners that would immediately follow)
I'm waiting for the true best paf, then, I guess.
Maybe we can name it after fermat.
Fermat's last paf. I once had the procedure written down to make it, but couldn't fit it in the margin of my notebook.
Nope. Tried that with three hundred dollar lollars. Never again, they are no different than a, set of $70 rose pickups
Put a set of Rose Robustas in my Strat, I was done looking for Strat pickups. Sounded just like I thought a Strat should at less than $75. Ken wound me a Buff Beauty bridge/Robusta neck for my "Prinz" Tele, they sound terrific. I installed Bootstrap P90's in my Epi Blueshawk, awesome.
Three guitars worth of pickups for less than the set being discussed. Those sound great too, but I think real gems are out there for way less, just gotta look for em. Thank you TDPRI!
no, there's nothing more to a good PAF than there is to a good single coil. humbuckers are just conjoined single coils, with more parts to fiddle with during construction. due to those added parts, cost of build goes up along with scale of economies. i also think that a fair number of winders simply prefer single coils over duals - color me guilty.
only if there was a waiting list and people on a forum told me they were the best.