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Wood Putty

Discussion in 'Tele Home Depot' started by GotTheSilver, Feb 9, 2019.

  1. GotTheSilver

    GotTheSilver Tele-Meister

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    I am hoping someone can give me a recommendation for a better wood putty. I have been using the Timber Mate water based wood filler. The problem I find with the Timber Mate is that it is not hard enough after it dries. You can basically rub it off with your finger, as if your finger was sandpaper. For me, this makes it hard to use because it is extremely easy to over-sand and even just handling a piece of wood will wear it off. I would like to find a putty that has more staying power. Something that dries hard and is sandable, but doesn't just rub off.

    Any suggestions?
     
  2. Freeman Keller

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    What finish are you going to put over the putty?
     
  3. RodeoTex

    RodeoTex Poster Extraordinaire

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    Why would you be handing the filler that much?
    Put it on, lightly sand, then cover it with sanding sealer.
     
  4. guitarbuilder

    guitarbuilder Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

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    I've always used plastic wood. It is mostly cellulose and acetone.
     
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  5. Mike Simpson

    Mike Simpson Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

    Mar 19, 2006
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    Pretty much all wood filler putty is junk.
    I fill voids with superglue or epoxy. If the inclusion it is bigger I fill it with another scrap of wood.
     
  6. GotTheSilver

    GotTheSilver Tele-Meister

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    Vinyl sealer then nitro.
     
  7. Freeman Keller

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    OK, I have never seen a putty (or for that matter, glue) that will not show up under nitro. Therefore I don't use it. I try to make my joints so good that there is no gap that needs filling. If I have to fill a gap (usually when I'm doing inlay) I make a powder of the parent wood and mix that either with CA or epoxy. That works pretty good on dark woods like rose or ebony but shows really badly on lighter wood.

    On opaque finishes I don't think it matters - any filler will work.
     
  8. GotTheSilver

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    Thanks, Freeman. It will be an opaque finish. Sorry I didn't mention that.

    This is not a gap in a joint. I am still pretty new to guitar building and woodworking in general. I just carved a neck and it came out great except for a couple of spots where I went a bit too deep. I want to fill those spots rather than take the rest of the neck down to that level.
     
  9. Freeman Keller

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    I've actually used Bondo for a repair like that and shot nitro over it, but I think almost any filler would work

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  10. GotTheSilver

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    Where would the world be without Bondo and duct tape?! :D
     
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  11. GotTheSilver

    GotTheSilver Tele-Meister

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    Thanks. I may give that a try.
     
  12. GotTheSilver

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    I've used wood dust and super glue around inlays, epoxy also. Hadn't thought of doing something similar for these divots. That may work.
     
  13. wadeeinkauf

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    I use JB weld wood weld. It's a two part epoxy.
    It's fast and sets up in about 10 minutes. You can get it at some hardware stores. I use it so much that I order the pro size directly from jbweld.com. I use it for chip out where it will be painted. I have used it where I have routed too deep in a switch cavity...fill in a bit to add support. Also if you have a screw hole that is too big you can fill it and then put the screw back in. This happens to me when the head of a screw used to hold the bridge breaks off....or one of thoes little screws on some tuners. The hole will be covered by the bridge or tuner but you have to get the broken screw out which makes a hole too big for the new screw....fill and screw.
     
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  14. Blue Bill

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    Durham's water putty works great. Sticks well, sands smooth, doesn't shrink. It's basically super-fine grain concrete. It sets up in about three minutes. And it's cheap. I think Dura-bond is about the same thing. I've used bondo and JB Weld a lot, too, they work fine. IME, both bondo and water putty will shrink slightly over time, if it's thicker than an eighth or so, so give a thick layer a day or two to cure thoroughly before sanding.

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  15. Treadplatedual

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    Thank you, I've been looking for this stuff and didn't know what it was called!
     
  16. Count

    Count Friend of Leo's

    The old recipe of chalk (the type used on blackboards) and linseed oil is hard to beat. To colour it just add a SMALL amount of artist oil paint. Alternatively use coloured chalk. Takes a while to dry, less oil equals quicker drying, but it does dry harder than most current commercial "puttys".
     
  17. Ronkirn

    Ronkirn Doctor of Teleocity Vendor Member

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    use this for light duty . . it's lacquer based so it's easily thinned and dries relatively fast...

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000RMNVTI/?tag=tdpri-20

    and BonDo for anything somewhat more demanding,,, Never use water-based filler... you won't live long enough for it to dry thoroughly.

    and never use any filler for anything structural...

    rk
     
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  18. Anita Bonghit

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    Anybody use Liquid Nails ? I'm thinking about filling a few pickguard holes and re drilling.
     
  19. Blue Bill

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    Really, Ron? Have you ever tried Durham's? I've been using it for decades, for all kinds of woodwork; I love the stuff. I've used FamoWood a few times; it's good, but I think the Water Putty is harder.
     
  20. Ronkirn

    Ronkirn Doctor of Teleocity Vendor Member

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    yeah, for securing paneling, sheet rock, some framing... You can use it to hold a Mirror to the wall... fill gaps in sloppy construction... but never on a guitar.... it's glue.. flexible glue... (more or less) and not suited for anything I can think of related to a guitar..

    Durhams? Nope . . the stuff I listed above has been my number one "go to" for about 45 years.... it's not broke... so . .

    and harder shouldn't be an issue.. you do not use any of this stuff for any thing structural... ya do not fill old screw holes... rebuild neck pockets... or broken head stocks... what you CAN do it fill any irregularities remaining after the problem has been repaired correctly... so any pending paint will find a smooth surface.... that's ALL it's good for,, it has about ZERO shear strength and Minus ZERO Tensile strength...

    rk
     
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