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Wood... A Pickup Winder… Pickup... Tone …My experiment.

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  1. Deneb

    Deneb Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

    Feb 16, 2011
    Ukraine, Dnipro
    Hello All!
    I'm Vladimir. I live in Ukraine.
    I plan to make their pickups. I made four a strates.
    Each a strat is made of different combinations of wood.
    I am wondering how it will affect the tone.
    To do this, I want to wound three (set) singles and testing in each a strates.
    After this, for each a strat wound their pickups.
    I will need your support and experience.
    Maybe it's someone interesting also.
    So, let's go!
    A little about guitars:
    1. Body: Ash (hard, нeavy ash)
    Top: Ash (hard ash) – 0.4”, + Olive Ash Veneer.
    Cavity for pickups: SSS
    Neck: Ash (hard ash), Compound radius, nut – brass.
    Parts are made from a one board.
    Why is this the combination of wood? I wanted to make the LP and compare with mahogany. But I did Stratocaster and decided to test first so. LP from hard ash this will be another thread.
     

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  2. Deneb

    Deneb Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

    Feb 16, 2011
    Ukraine, Dnipro
    2. Body: Alder + Flame Maple Veneer.
    Cavity for pickups: SSS
    Neck: Maple, Compound radius, nut – brass.
     

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  3. Deneb

    Deneb Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

    Feb 16, 2011
    Ukraine, Dnipro
    3. Body: linden
    Top: Maple – 0.4”, + Birdseye Maple Veneer.
    Cavity for pickups: HSS
    Neck: Maple, Compound radius, nut – brass.
     

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  4. Deneb

    Deneb Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

    Feb 16, 2011
    Ukraine, Dnipro
    4. Body: Alder
    Top: Maple – 0.4”, + Flame Maple Veneer.
    Cavity for pickups: HSS
    Neck: Maple, Rosewood Fretboard, Compound radius, nut – brass.
     

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  5. Deneb

    Deneb Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

    Feb 16, 2011
    Ukraine, Dnipro
    A Pickup Winder…

    I did some preliminary work.
     

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  6. Deneb

    Deneb Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

    Feb 16, 2011
    Ukraine, Dnipro
    The components of my pickups winder.
    Not knowing what kind of torque needed, I went with a powerful motor and 220 V (relatively powerful 100W).
     

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  7. Asmith

    Asmith Friend of Leo's Ad Free Member

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    Nov 27, 2014
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    Don't know much about pickup winding in practice but I have to say those guitars are really nice I love the stain on that ash neck in the first pic.
     
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  8. Deneb

    Deneb Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

    Feb 16, 2011
    Ukraine, Dnipro
    The motor speed is unknown. Visually, it is not less than 1000-1200 RPM.
    The speed is determined after assembly winder. If necessary, adjust the speed with the pulley.
    1: 1 and 1: 2. If necessary, I will can get a 2000-2500RPM. And of course, the Speed Controller.
     

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  9. jvin248

    jvin248 Friend of Leo's

    Apr 18, 2014
    Near Detroit, MI
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    Nice looking guitars!

    If you are interested in testing 'wood tone' you will need to limit all the other variables. You might do best with an unfinished but exactly sized slab of each board species and move neck, strings, electronics from each 'body' to the other.

    There are youtube videos for guitars people have made out of cement, plastic plumbing pipe, and many other methods to investigate 'wood tone'. Big inconclusive debates that rage on for months. Perhaps you can define a repeatable test that others can also do to prove/disprove 'wood tone'.
     
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  10. Deneb

    Deneb Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

    Feb 16, 2011
    Ukraine, Dnipro
    Thanks you. It was planned to cover without color. But at the last moment ... hand she went to the side of the neck.
    For this reason, poorly visible markers on the fretboard. They are made of ebony.
     

  11. Jupiter

    Jupiter Telefied Silver Supporter

    Jun 22, 2010
    Osaka, Japan
    Those are beautiful guitars!

    The winder motor does not need much torque; the wire breaks as easily as a human hair.

    1200RPM is pretty good speed for a hobby winder; 2500 is VERY fast...
     

  12. Deneb

    Deneb Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

    Feb 16, 2011
    Ukraine, Dnipro
    Thank you! I want to know how does design features of the body on tone. This is not to dispute with someone. For the sake of interest.
     

  13. Deneb

    Deneb Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

    Feb 16, 2011
    Ukraine, Dnipro
    Thank you! I will try. At low speeds, the engine is very weak. I decided to play it safe.
     

  14. telemnemonics

    telemnemonics Poster Extraordinaire

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    Mar 2, 2010
    Maine
    In my own personal parts guitars I have noticed that a heavy hard ash body makes a set of bright pickups sound too bright and thin, so darker sounding pickups might work better in that body.

    Nice looking guitars!
     
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  15. Deneb

    Deneb Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

    Feb 16, 2011
    Ukraine, Dnipro
    Thank you to be appreciated! Your advice is very useful for me, thank you! You know how to do it (in addition to the magnets)?
     

  16. telemnemonics

    telemnemonics Poster Extraordinaire

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    Mar 2, 2010
    Maine
    There's a bunch of members who make great pickups that could give you better advice, but in general adding more turns of wire makes the pickup sound darker, and using thinner wire like 43awg instead of 42awg will allow you to fit more turns on the pickup bobbin.

    A Strat pickup might get 8000- 9000 turns of 42awg, with less turns making a brighter sound and more turns making a darker sound.
    How you wind also effects the tone, but I can't say exactly how...
     

  17. Deneb

    Deneb Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

    Feb 16, 2011
    Ukraine, Dnipro
    Thank you! I will accept note of this!
     

  18. Deneb

    Deneb Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

    Feb 16, 2011
    Ukraine, Dnipro
    Hi,
    Today was a lot of petty work.
    Defines the center axis of the motor. Tension rubber belt. Routing.
     

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  19. Deneb

    Deneb Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

    Feb 16, 2011
    Ukraine, Dnipro
    Fixing the motor
     

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  20. Deneb

    Deneb Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

    Feb 16, 2011
    Ukraine, Dnipro
    Layout holes
     

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