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Why everybody so afraid of volume !!?

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by bftfender, Jan 10, 2019.

  1. memiller

    memiller TDPRI Member

    Jan 9, 2019
    Just let 'em go. If someone is this ignorant nothing will convince them they're wrong until the day they realize they'll never heard their grandkid's voice.
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  2. Sconnie

    Sconnie Tele-Afflicted

    May 1, 2017
    Denver, CO
    Just messing around! I've always chosen the blind option in the "blind or deaf" hypothetical for just that reason. I always wear hearing protection when I play loudly.
  3. Whatizitman

    Whatizitman Tele-Holic

    Feb 18, 2018
    The military now "requires" ear protection for small arms and artillery, both in and out of combat zones. I've met more than a few veterans who wished they followed that requirement more consistently. Or at least were able to.
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  4. Kingpin

    Kingpin Friend of Leo's

    Mar 16, 2003
    O.P., go ahead and play as loud as you want. In the meantime, we'll begin processing your application to join the rest of us in the I Wish I Hadn't Done That Club.
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  5. drlucky

    drlucky Tele-Holic

    Jun 19, 2012
    Fresno, Ca
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  6. Henry Mars

    Henry Mars Tele-Holic

    Jan 17, 2014
    Bucks Co. PA
    ... Why afraid? Like I lost half of my hearing from playing in loud concerts and nightclubs. Simple really.
  7. Blazer

    Blazer Doctor of Teleocity

    Dec 2, 2003
    The Netherlands
    Hearing loss aside, one thing I really started to hate about bands turning down is how much the crowd is suddenly talking quite loudly over the music.

    SHUT THE HELL UP and enjoy the music!
  8. Danjabellza

    Danjabellza Tele-Afflicted

    Sep 22, 2014
    Pahrump, nv
    A lot of times it’s city statutes requiring businesses to limit the volume in the club/bar etc.
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  9. cyclopean

    cyclopean Friend of Leo's

    Aug 14, 2009
    innsmouth, MA
    there were a couple of times in the last year alone when i actually (politely) complained to the promoter about it being too quiet and just not satisfying.

    i have tinnitus. i wear good earplugs. i want to hear the music in my body, not just with my ears. for some genres quiet is fine. for others you need to have the air moving a certain amount for it to feel right. i don't need or want my bluegrass volume at the same level as japanese hardcore or power electronics.

    also loud and muddy is garbage.
  10. cyclopean

    cyclopean Friend of Leo's

    Aug 14, 2009
    innsmouth, MA
    because i don't want to make someone else listen to me doing that.
  11. cyclopean

    cyclopean Friend of Leo's

    Aug 14, 2009
    innsmouth, MA
    pretty much every bar i see music at is good at taking orders by pantomime.
  12. thunderbyrd

    thunderbyrd Friend of Leo's Silver Supporter

    Dec 21, 2004
    central ky
    I've been about 70% deaf for a month now due to fluid on my ears. it is no fun. but go ahead and crank, if you want to experience it for yourself.
  13. Wrighty

    Wrighty Tele-Afflicted

    Aug 17, 2013
    Essex UK
    ‘Cos when it gets to the point it’s hurting it’s no fun. The detail gets lost and your head aches. Mind you, playing in a band you soon learn that the complaints often come from the table directly in front of and four feet away from a PA speaker!
    Last edited: Jan 11, 2019 at 6:41 PM
  14. Damitboy

    Damitboy TDPRI Member

    Dec 8, 2018
    omaha ne
    thats quite
  15. tele_savales

    tele_savales Tele-Meister

    Apr 30, 2018
    Brooklyn, Joey!
    Since everyone has an opinion/story, I guess I'll go as well. I've played the guitar and drums for over 40 years and started going to arena metal shows around the same time in my teens. I drum teched for a couple years, and I've heard every kind of music from backstage, sidestage, onstage, in the pit, and foh.

    I've been living in NYC for the past few years and I've noticed a MAJOR decrease in stage volume, and overall volume at lots and lots of shows-Soulfly, Lamb of God, Anthrax, Iron Maiden, even Zakk Wylde, from what I clearly remember as deafening volume levels in the '90's. I wondered if there was a decibel limit within the city limits because a lot of these guys are now just using one half stack with a clone backstage in case their rig goes down.

    I'm a little ashamed to admit it...But I had never seen Slayer live. I like them, it was just never a priority to see them. These guys are so stinking loud... IT'S FRIGGIN AWESOME. Now, I've seen them three times on their "final tour" and I'm seeing them again in May. Besides the fact that their volume is truly epic, I have NEVER heard a band with that kind of volume have such an unbelievable live sound-total separation between King and Holt's guitars, unbelievable clarity- they have to be seen and heard to be believed. I had no idea a band could play that loud and sound that good, I didn't even think bands played that loud at all anymore.

    Apparently, both Kerry King and Gary Holt have 3 4x12's (I think they both use 3 100 watt JCM 800's each) on each side of the stage, ostensibly so they can still hear themselves if they switch sides of the stage-but the result out front is killer.

    Anyhow. Forget everything you thought you knew about volume and go see Slayer. Even if you're not into metal. Best shows I've ever seen in my life.
  16. deytookerjaabs

    deytookerjaabs Friend of Leo's

    Jun 5, 2015
  17. DrPepper

    DrPepper Tele-Holic

    Nov 24, 2017
    Yup, I remember seeing Fire dept officers counting heads and measuring decibels in all the local night clubs back in the day.
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  18. Doug B

    Doug B Tele-Meister

    May 29, 2017
    Sounds like the OP is exaggerating for effect! :rolleyes:
  19. MilwMark

    MilwMark Poster Extraordinaire Ad Free Member

    Apr 29, 2013
    near Arnold's
    Why does everything go to the absurd? And why do so many threads devolve to what are or are not accurate and appropriate tuning methods? WTF?

    Anyway, I totally get what OP is saying. Others have hit on it. Venues "want" bands. But then they want them to be quieter than the chatter of the crowd? Even though their house music is punishingly loud during breaks, they STILL yell at the bands to turn down. Again, WTF?

    I'll only take what I call "wallpaper" gigs wth my acoustic band. I you want interesting sonic wallpaper, a rock band is not the answer.

    This does NOT mean playing at 110-120db. But playing at lawnmower volume shouldn't be a surprise.

    I once got told to turn down. When were playing acoustic. Around a single mic. Wth a single monitor on the floor as our “main”.
    Last edited: Jan 11, 2019 at 10:56 PM
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  20. kelnet

    kelnet Telefied Ad Free Member

    Apr 17, 2008
    Port Moody, BC
    Really? Which venues do that?
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