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Why do we call people from the United States "American"...

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by soulgeezer, Aug 9, 2018.

  1. soulgeezer

    soulgeezer Poster Extraordinaire

    Nov 5, 2006
    Sinatra's World
    ...but, people the other two North American countries are Canadians (from Canada) and Mexicans (from Mexico)?

    (The people I've met who are most incensed by this have pretty much always been Canadian, by the way.)

    Doesn't it seem like we should all have the same claim to the name "American," since we're all from North America, while people from the US should more properly be called something else, when referring only to people from that country? "Statesmen" or "Statesians" or some such?

    Here's my theory:

    It all stems from shortening the full name of the countries under discussion. Hence...

    People from Canada are Canadian

    People from the Estados Unidos de Mexico (the United States of Mexico - and yes, that's the country's full name) are Mexicans

    And, people from the United States of America are Americans

    This is my theory. It boils down to shortening the long name of each country in the most intuitive manner possible. I don't believe I've seen it explained quite that way or that simply anywhere else.

    What do you think? Does the idea hold water?
     
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  2. BigDaddyLH

    BigDaddyLH Telefied Ad Free Member

    I AM TOO ANGRY TO UNDO THE CAPS LOCK!!!
     

  3. SixStringSlinger

    SixStringSlinger Tele-Afflicted

    May 21, 2006
    SPace
    So you're saying it's not related to why we call vibrato units tremolos?
     
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  4. soulgeezer

    soulgeezer Poster Extraordinaire

    Nov 5, 2006
    Sinatra's World
    POTD! (Post of the day!)
     
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  5. william tele

    william tele Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Nov 7, 2009
    Kansas City, MO
    Interesting discussion that couldn't possibly go wrong. I use USA and citizen of US...simply because of the conflict in logic and sweeping inference of "Americans".
     
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  6. notmyusualuserid

    notmyusualuserid Tele-Afflicted

    May 3, 2016
    In the South
    The RotW will sit this one out, if they have any sense :)
     
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  7. acrylicsuperman

    acrylicsuperman Tele-Holic

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    Nov 17, 2010
    Arizona
    United states of America= Americans
    Mexico= Mexicans
    Canada= Canadians

    Pretty self explanatory, dude.
     

  8. soulgeezer

    soulgeezer Poster Extraordinaire

    Nov 5, 2006
    Sinatra's World
    But, all in North America. Not all that self-explanatory when Canadian complains that the word "Americans" is some kind of hegemonous insult being levied against Canada by their neighbors to the south. And, believe me, I heard that complaint a lot when I used to live in PEI!
     
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  9. acrylicsuperman

    acrylicsuperman Tele-Holic

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    Nov 17, 2010
    Arizona

    It is a stupid argument though.
     
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  10. BigDaddyLH

    BigDaddyLH Telefied Ad Free Member

    I'm better now. I just drank a glass of buttermilk. OH WAIT, I'M LACTOSE INTOLERANT!!!
     

  11. AlbertaGriff

    AlbertaGriff Tele-Meister

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    Mar 2, 2016
    Alberta, Canada
    What in Annes Green Gables were you doing in PEI?
     

  12. william tele

    william tele Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Nov 7, 2009
    Kansas City, MO
    It's an honor to have you included in it...:D
     
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  13. bblumentritt

    bblumentritt Tele-Afflicted

    Dec 3, 2012
    Austin, Texas
    People all over the world call people from the United States, "Americans". We were called Americans by people from the outside before we called ourselves Americans.

    The original use was to differentiate English people of the American colonies from English people of England.
     
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  14. soulgeezer

    soulgeezer Poster Extraordinaire

    Nov 5, 2006
    Sinatra's World
    Twenty-five years later and I’m still asking myself that question!
     
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  15. beyer160

    beyer160 Tele-Afflicted

    Aug 11, 2010
    On Location
    It's actually "'MERICANS!"

    And, Canada and Mexico are not nuculer powers, so we get to call ourselves whatever we want.

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  16. Piggy Stu

    Piggy Stu Friend of Leo's

    Feb 26, 2017
    UK
    Canadia, US, Australia.... simple to just refer to them as 'former British colonies' to torment the feeble stomached

    Churchill was always very diplomatic in referring to 'the English speaking peoples', but we knew what he meant - the globe is cast in the shadow of Britain's laws and language

    (Did I offend enough people yet? Or should I press on?)
     

  17. notmyusualuserid

    notmyusualuserid Tele-Afflicted

    May 3, 2016
    In the South
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  18. 6stringcowboy

    6stringcowboy Tele-Afflicted

    'cause United Statesian doesnt really roll off the tongue?
     

  19. raysachs

    raysachs Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

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    May 21, 2017
    Near Philly
    All very interesting. And here I just thought it was because we tend to get angry when people call us a$$holes...
     

  20. soulgeezer

    soulgeezer Poster Extraordinaire

    Nov 5, 2006
    Sinatra's World
    Only 26% of the current United States were ever British colonies. So, "former British colonies" doesn't really work. The rest were French, Spanish, Mexican, Dutch, and maybe a few others.

    But, we all speak English (sort of, anyway).
     
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