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Discussion in 'Music to Your Ears' started by ndcaster, Jun 19, 2017.
The difference between what folk, and country, was,
It's not the same now.
Now dont go throwing alt. country and indie into the mix...
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Did you Wiki this? Anyway, seems pretty close to me.
BTW, someone mentioned, "pedal steel". That might be a pretty good instant litmus test.
I like em' all. It's fun to follow roots of a song back realize a rock riff goes back to the 1700's or modern country lick first was heard back in the 20's. Good luck calling Dylan's stuff any one genre...
Fortunately, you don't have to define any of it to love it or play it.
Folk music told a simple story of what is going on in the world thru music.
Country has split in many factors. FCL and Merle Haggard both great and both Country.
Well, years ago I was playing in front of an old bluegrass guy and he said "So you're a folkie, eh"? I took it as kinda odd back then because I was playing a Little Feat song and didn't really want to sound like Peter, Paul & Mary. A friend explained that to that old guy Little Feat equaled folk, along with every thing else that was played on acoustic guitar but wasn't bluegrass. Electric guitar-based music was rock or, more accurately, not worth paying attention to.
That's all I know.
One of the best folk songs ever is about 'Murica: Hit it Woody: "This land is my land, this land is your land. From California, to the New York Island..."
I think of the popular guitar, be it electric or acoustic, and as opposed to classical, as a folk instrument.
I remember that song from the movie about Woody Guthrie. It's a great movie...
I would say that country music is a form of folk music. As is rock, bluegrass, and rap. Indeed, when Alan Lomax put together Folksong 68 he invited rock'n'roll bands among the other 'folk' groups. Cause they were what was happening in a local scene, they were the 'folk' expression of communities at the time.
Folk's broad definition is music created by community that speaks of their experience. Some guys like Dylan, PP&M, etc... didn't have an easy genre label so we started using folk for them. Just like now we use Americana to describe a band who switches between blues, country, and bluegrass.
So you go to the record store and ask were the FOLK section is, and they say it's everywhere outside of the classical section?!
Male folkies wear hats with smaller brims and show a lot of forehead. Male country singers pull their caps and cowboy hats down in front. David Rawlings and Chuck Mead are country folkies who wear their hats in between.
Country is made with a commercial consideration. Folk is not made with a commercial consideration.
Except of course when they're not.
Country music has a good deal more TWANG!.. than Folk music....
Louis Armstrong says it's all folk music, I'd agree.
True Folk musicians got FBI wiretaps and Congressional investigations.
PP&M? Pop music, not the least bit Folk.
I can't place doc Watson?
How bout Bill Monroe?
These folks played Folk for themselves and their family and friends.
Management could spin it any way they wanted.
Even classical had origins in folks with hand made instruments playing and singing songs passed down through generations.
Only when big money starts flowing do we get shafted with labels.
Here's Bill playing full on Folk with Marty Stuart moving aside.
Hell I play and sing it all. A good song is a good song.
But Dylan could rap with the best of them.
Yes, my first thought was, how does one classify Johnny Cash? And that Bill Monroe clip above defies easy classifications. I always saw bluegrass as being sort of at an intersection of folk and country. Broadly, it's all folk music, but we all know a "folkie" when we hear one.
I have my favorites in most any genre, I like all of it.