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what is shredding

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by LeftyAl, Jan 11, 2018.

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    Perfect description.
     
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    The world needs muesli...:cool:
     
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  5. Toto'sDad

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    Mmmmmmm,

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  6. Area51

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    Couldn't have said it better.
     

  7. Fearnot

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    If shredders are great musicians, then auctioneers are great public speakers.
     

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  9. Ira7

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    To me...and I ain’t saying I’m right...

    Shredding is some really fast lead skills, distorted and gained to the point of total crap. And this distortion makes the lead skill appear much higher than it actually is.

    Same guitarist playing that same part through a clean channel?

    Can’t do it. It would sound WORSE than crap.
     

  10. Area51

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    Really?

     

  11. Ira7

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    You call that shredding?

    Seriously?

    Or should I say, really?
     

  12. Area51

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    Yes, I call playing fast shredding; Django, Albert Lee, Shawn Lane, Coltrane, Hellecasters, Liszt, Pagnini, even Bach are shredders. I don't find their playing fast any different from your defining it as "overdriven crap."

    But I like, or at least appreciate, all musical art forms.
     
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  13. LowThudd

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    I think his point was that the same player is given on the first page of this thread as an example of a shredder, with distortion and all. And here he is playing clean, and nicely.

    I also don't think you are completely correct. Certainly there are "shredders" who couldn't play clean well. But many of them are very accomplished musicians who prefer the addition of distortion, sustain and even feedback that comes from lot's of drive.
     
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  14. jman72

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    All the hating on shredders never ceases to amaze me. If you don't like it/get it, don't listen to it. I like all kinds of music, including shredding. Just because you CAN play REALLY fast doesn't mean you don't have passion, emotion, or feeling. Sure, there are some fast players that seem to just noodle around, but that is by no means the norm. Joe Satriani (my favorite "shredder") is in my opinion one of the most emotive guitarists on the planet. I still get goosebumps every time I listen to this:



    Maybe you don't like it. I love it!!!
     

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    Anyone who plays a solo more than 12 bars or a note faster than an 8th note is a shredder. I don' like em. Don' trust em.
     

  17. Teleterr

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    I like fast playing , but not shredding. Playing a scale of 64th notes is "shredding" to me, because it probably would work just as well w notes at half or 1/4 the tempo. But if you listen to Randy Rhodes Baroque trills on Blizzard of Oz, they wouldn t work slower because each note cluster acts as a replacement for one note, and then the line is constructed from them together. Vastly different from playing scales fast. Same is true of McLaughlin. I don t hear that in lots of technical guitarists. If youre just playing what a slower guitarist could play faster, thats not really better.
     

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    Buckethead is the master. Plays with soul, and is one of the fastest and most accurate shredders. I've seen him live up close. He is a true guitar virtuoso. Shredding begins aroun 4:15 of the video. Shredding, done properly, can be musically pleasing.
     
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  20. MDent77

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    Yes. The pick attack of a John Petrucci can be quite musically percussive and artistic. The extreme flurry of a sweep by Frank Gambale can communicate a majestic musical mood.

    To me, the key is moderation. Using such skills for artistic reasons is the hurdle. Because the human condition and the weakness of ego can often lead many musicians (with such skills) to over indulge.
     
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