What if somebody in the band is a better frontman?

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  1. Marc Morfei

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    Nailed it.
     
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  2. charlie chitlin

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    I'm trying to imagine The Doors without a frontman. ;)
     
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    Take a look at TheBand. 3 lead singers. Make the decisions for the songs. Yes eventually they fell apart, but that was mostly drug induced, and then Robertson become Hollywood star struck
     
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    They would have been the most popular band on the Holiday Inn circuit.
     
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    Does he write also?

    Pete wrote Roger sang
    Jim M sang and wrote - their most successful hits...Robbie
    Robertson - wrote and they worked the songs for who or what combination fit best. They kept his mic off, he did eventually come to terms with his voice.
    Jimmie Page wrote/stole and Robert sang

    Are you first or is the music and the band? Ifhe fits in with you all, he works. He will make you step up your game
     
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    Don't underestimate yourself. It sounds like you can take credit for much of the band's success and audiences apparently like you. That's a pretty big deal. I've seen the live-wire front man thing backfire because the audience simply didn't like the guy or the show biz approach. I'd maybe give him a three song showcase and see how it goes from there. One song here and there is kind of hard to get a read on but three in a row should give you more of an idea whether you want to go there or not.

    Also, if you're singing originals and he's doing tried and true crowd-pleasers, it might be an unfair comparison. You could do that, too, if you were to choose that direction.
     
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    This seems like a sensible approach, and Chicago and the others mentioned have been very successful with it. I was a big Chicago fan, too (first 3-4 LPs anyway). Maybe suggest to him that the two of you go over some of the songs you think he'd be better singing, let him know there's room for him to take leads, and that you want what's best for the band. I'd see how it goes from there.

    Charlie, I just saw your "Come Out Baby" video on the page linked in your signature—you've already got a great thing going, you guys cook! The more talent the merrier I say. I agree with the cautions about taking it slow at first if you don't know the fellow well.

    Good luck, I'm following this story. :)
     
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    I’d gladly share the job. The two of you can entertain the audience and play off of each other. If you’re trying to develop a specific sounds, it would have to be a hall and oats or Lennon and McCartney situation. We all know how those ended though, so enjoy it before you embark on a solo career.


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    It seems you’re somewhat threatened by someone with different talents that, at least in the way You expressed your misgivings, you perceive to be superior to yours.
    In that case, as a leader you have to decide if your band is about you or the band. When I was ICU Director for over 8 years, I hired smarter doctors and yikes(!) It was tough at first because I was always the go-to guy and that satisfied my ego. But the care improved, the Unit got better, I learned more and personally got better. It was win-win.
    It all depends on your ego ( think performers need a big Ego to do well) deals with the new talent. Turn the negativity positive.
     
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    It’s cool with me.
    Fronting a band can be a lot of extra, thankless work.
    I strive to be brief, and (hopefully) entertaining and enjoyable.
    I live to gig, and the inverse.
    I love it when someone is good, at anything on the bandstand.
    It keeps it all going, which is mission #1.
     
  11. bcorig

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    Brian Wilson did the same with Pet Sounds. Those guys were his brothers!
     
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    Nope.
    Just trying to figure out what to do about it.
     
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    Fire him!...or what's a frontman do? interact with the crowd? or you could refute everything they say...just some options
     
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    Can you count on him? Know him well? In my band me and the singer cover most of the lead vocals, although we have had side men that sing better than us, they tend to come and go. We stay the core because we can always work that way.
     
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    man; I would welcome some help; if only to have someone to 'talk' to on mic other than the audience...

    fronting (to me) is harder than the playing/singing at same time-- it's a real trick to engage a whole room of folk...
     
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    OK. Consider yourself fortunate this performer wants to work with you and have some fun. “Compare yourself to who you were yesterday not what someone else is today”.
     
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    We have three guys that sing in my band. We're all "OK" at it. While I can nominally be considered the leader of the band, I'm more than happy to have some of the attention on them every other song or so. We take turns on the mic chatting with the crowd, etc. The harp guy was assigned to "intro the band" while I swapped guitars for instance.

    What I have found, oddly, is that the more I do this, the better I get at it. If that mic is on, I've ended up saying some wacky "frontman" kinda stuff...asked the crowd of friends to turn to their neighbor and introduce themselves, everyone laughed. Just popped into my head and out of my mouth. I sure wouldn't make a whole night of my crummy stand up routine of course.
     
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    Agree with this. Don't immediately think you have to put all your eggs in that basket. He can leave tomorrow. Happens all the time.

    If it is "your" band you should continue to treat is that way and let this guy work in some tunes but don't change the overall focus and mission.

    Dan
     
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    THIS! Let everyone shine, and let the band be that much stronger for it.
     
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    Certainly, but don't call me Shirley
     
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