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What font for the 50's Fender logo?

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  1. KokoTele

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    Does anyone know what font works for the 50's style Fender logo? Brush Script and Banff have some close letters, but the F and E don't look right.

    Anyone?
     
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    Banff is just Corel's take on Brush Script. What you can do is use an upper-case "E" in a smaller point size, but you have to outline it (stroke it if you're an Illutrator user) so that it'll be the same weight or thickness as the other characters. It still won't look quite the same as the original, though - to replicate that takes a bit of time and skill in a drawing app such as CorelDraw or Adobe Illustrator. Convert to curves (or outlines in AI) and node-edit away. May be quicker/cheaper to purchase a ready-made decal.
     
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    Why not just scan it?
     
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    Tony, the upper case E is the wrong shape in both of those fonts as well. Brush script is close enough for the later logo design, but doesn't match the spaghetti script.

    Here's the later logo.
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    Now look at the spaghetti script design:

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    Ira, I want the font to work on something else, so scanning doesn't help me.
     
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    I've been meaning to do this for a while, but I have never found the time. I wish somebody would take a program like this:

    FontForge font creator/editor software

    And create a "Fender Spaghetti" font. Not to recreate the Fender logo, but to make it easier for everybody to make a "Ferden" logo or whatever.

    Any takers? You should probably be an Illustrator user.
     
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    To make a ferden logo there is no need for a font. All you do is copy a the fender logo from the internet into an image editing software. From there you can 'cut out' the individual letters and put them in a diffferent order.

    Of course this only works if you only need an F, e, n, d and r. For anything else you're a bit stuck
     
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    See what you mean. As I see it, there are two methods to try, both involving some heavy-duty node-editing in a vector app such as Corel or Illustrator.

    The first way would as suggested before be to typeset the name in as close as you can get to the original font, which in the absence of anything better still looks like being Brush Script or one of its derivatives. Then convert it to curves or outlines (whatever the program calls them) and alter the shapes of the letters until you've achieved the desired effect.

    The other way is to put an image of the spaghetti logo on the screen and alter the colours until it's pale but visible. Then, I'm afraid, it's a case of starting from scratch and, effectively tracing the original, painstakingly re-creating the logo by drawing curves and editing them to match the original exactly or at least as close as you can get. At least you'll only have to draw the "e" once. It will almost certainly help to work in layers for this exercise.

    My experience is that bitmap-to-vector tracing apps such as CorelTrace never quite get it right and you can spend more time in editing the result than in doing it the hard way as described. I guarantee that by the time you've finished, your skills will have improved greatly!

    However you do it, it's not a five-minute job. I've had to do similar work more than once (I'm actually doing a hotel chain's logo right now, as it happens) and customers never seem to grasp the involved nature of the task or be willing to pay for the billable hours expended. :rolleyes:

    However you approach the job, save and backup often!
     
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    Me again. I just spotted that you may want to create additional characters as well. If the font doesn't already exist, the only way to do this is use your creative skills, spend some time and capture the essence of the shapes and styles of the characters you already have. Create and use a grid for cap- and x-heights plus ascenders and descenders. You can actually create a whole new TrueType font this way by applying the appropriate ANSI code to each character as it's created. Check out your program's manual and/or on-screen Help file. Good luck!
     
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    I'd like to have "Fender Spaghetti" and "Blackface Amp" fonts. Wish I knew how
     
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    I just checked through 60 fonts in Idendifont.com and nothing comes any closer than Brush Script, of which there are several versions. As we know, this won't do the job as it comes out of the box, so it's a matter of getting to grips with drawing software as I described above and just putting in the hours. Or paying a graphics pro to do it. Guess it all depends on how much you want or need the item in question...

    Sorry I can't be more helpful than that.
     
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    I didn't say it's hard to do - I said, or at least implied, that it takes time to get it right. If you're happy with that logo, well and good - but I wouldn't be, for a number of reasons. Maybe, as a graphics professional, I'm being too fussy, but I've always taken the view that there are no short cuts - if a job is worth doing, it's worth doing properly.
     
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    Here you go, look. I just created this one character from scratch - no tracing, took about 15 minutes, and that's before any final tweaking. And this is a fairly easy one.
     

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    Any ideas about the 'Telecaster' font. Seems theres a few that are close.
     
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    Fair enough! This is just my poor attempt at creating something that resembles the original logo, and I must say that it is 103% more satisfying to use my own one instead of slapping a counterfeit F-logo on a partscaster ;)
     
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    I think Futura Light comes quite close to that one. I remember it being discussed in Buckocaster51's first build thread.
     
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    I'd agree re Futura Light - also worth looking at Century Gothic. Very nearly the same but the cap R has a slightly wider bowl, which may or may not be what's needed.
     
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    Well... I stick to the font I mentioned above...

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