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Vox brings out the coolest looking practice amp the Mini Super Beetle

Discussion in 'Amp Central Station' started by warrent, Jun 28, 2018.

  1. PhredE

    PhredE Tele-Meister

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    https://www.voxamps.com/MiniSuperBeetle25

    Justifiably, a lot of attention is being put on the accompanying cabinet -- but, it is sad to see (perhaps just a mere innocent error of omission..) Vox does not include much technical info in any description about this Celestion 10" speaker.

    Most of the budget / lower-end of the Celestion product line for guitar seem to have efficiency ratings right about 95db.
    While I've been known to 'beat the dead horse' at time on this issue, it's still important because 25WRMS into an 82db speaker you could probably talk over. The same power into a 102db or 103db driver like an Emi C-Rex or The Wizard will likely put you on your way to a tinnitus diagnosis. For reference, the C-Rex would seem roughly over 4x louder than a comparable 95db speaker.

    **speaker efficiency matters**

    Maybe Vox can update their site to better inform we humble consumers (?)
     
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  2. radiocaster

    radiocaster Friend of Leo's

    Aug 18, 2015
    europe
    I have indeed used a 50 watt amp for practicing, but I don't think it's the best for all places at all hours.
     

  3. luckett

    luckett Friend of Leo's

    Jun 14, 2011
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    This is why they put volume knobs on them.
     

  4. radiocaster

    radiocaster Friend of Leo's

    Aug 18, 2015
    europe
    I guess people want to use this cab for gigging, it seems.

    I doubt it even sounds that good, the speaker is really crammed in there, but you could do an awesome version of Spinal Tap's Stonehenge.
     

  5. BigDaddyLH

    BigDaddyLH Telefied Ad Free Member

    Trapezoidal head -- well spotted! But I don't know how fussy folks looks for a practice amp will be about that.
    No wheels -- now that would be finicky! Just how much does this weigh?
     

  6. LGOberean

    LGOberean Poster Extraordinaire

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    I hear you on this one. I too looked for the specs on the Celestion speaker, without success. The most specific information Vox gives us is in the Owner's Manual. It isn't much, no efficiency rating given, but for the speaker info, it says "1 x 10" Custom Designed Celestion G10R." Though it's probably not the exact same speaker, the sensitivity rating on the Celestion G10-30 is 95dB, so I'm guessing the speaker in the MSB25 is rated the same.

    If that's the case, then it's not as efficient a speaker. :( Would this rig be loud enough to gig with? Well, I guess that depends. Most of what I do is solo or duo performance, playing music that is clean or requires just a bit of grit. I play small-ish venues/audiences. If my Pathfinders work for me in a lot of situations, I'm fairly confident the Mini Super Beetle will too. YMMV.
     
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  7. LGOberean

    LGOberean Poster Extraordinaire

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    Yeah, I noticed the cosmetic differences between the 1960s Super Beatle and the MSB25 as well, but I'm not at all "fussy" about the cosmetic differences. Vox' idea of approximating the 50 year old Super Beatle didn't even occur to me. While I think the look of this latest offering is cool, it's not what I would have designed myself. Not that Vox would ask me, but I would have wanted a 1x12" more conventional shaped cab. The tolex and piping are great, though. But like I said, I've got no problem with the look of the MSB25; it's cool. :cool:

    And wheels?!? :eek: Yeah, I agree, BDLH, that would be finicky! Wheels on such a small rig! :lol: This thing is about 2' tall by 1' wide by 7" deep, and weighs just a fraction over 19 lbs.
     

  8. DeVilleDude

    DeVilleDude Tele-Holic

    I'm putting together my guitar room at our new house right now, and a pair of these seem perfect for a small footprint stereo rig. I play a lot thru my PF15r when volume is a constraint, and look forward to the chance to demo one of these. Definitely checks the visual sex appeal and frugal price point boxes for me.
     
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  9. gusfinley

    gusfinley Tele-Meister

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    I was kind of excited about the nutube. I had a look at the spec and they just don't operate the same as our classic vacuum tubes. As you mentioned they are much lower gain, and they operate at MUCH lower voltages.

    The clips I have heard with them seem to sound much like a 12AX7/12AU7 in starved-plate (low-voltage) mode - Fizzy gain and heavily compressed. I hear the same in the TubeScreamer with the nu-tube in it - I actually prefer the solid state models which I am surprised by. I'm sure the nutube can be used in a circuit to an advantage over solid state, but I don't think they'll be replacing classic tubes any time in the future.
     
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  10. Donny Osmond fan

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    It will be my next amplifier.
     
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  11. Sleepyscholar

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    Sorry for the slight diversion, forum-wise, but I doubt Vox will be moving back into making serious guitars anytime soon. They did the Virage and its associated range (I own an SDC-55 and an HDC-99) which garnered great reviews... and clearly failed to sell well enough. If they make more money with the Starstream, or whatever it's called, then that's the sort of thing they'll stick with.
     

  12. dqami

    dqami Tele-Holic

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    Don't feel bad. I had one and found the combo sounded much better. The cab had cheap Celestions and didn't sound good with my other amps either. I sold it and still have my Pathfinder combo.
     

  13. LGOberean

    LGOberean Poster Extraordinaire

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    I'm bumping up this thread in part because a new thread about the Mini Super Beetle was started before that poster realized this thread existed. Maybe if this had been on the first page of threads in Amp Central Station, that might not have happened. But I also have news, or related news, anyway. The MV50 series NuTube amp heads, from which the MSB25 is derived, has just been bumped up in price from $199.99 to $219.99. This is the case on the various online stores: GC (and of course MF), Sweetwater and Sam Ash are the ones I've checked. Thankfully (and understandably since it was just released) the Mini Super Beetle is still $329.99.
     

  14. LGOberean

    LGOberean Poster Extraordinaire

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    Just came home from a late lunch out with the wife. On the way home, we stopped by the local GC. My wife and I had an arrangement. I wanted to see if the Mini Super Beetle was in yet, so she sat in the car. If they didn't have it, I'd be right back out. If they did have it, I'd text her to come in or go shopping elsewhere, her choice. The GC here did not have the MSB25 in store, and I checked, none were in transit. And they still don't have any of the MV50 models, either.
     

  15. knopflerfan

    knopflerfan Tele-Afflicted

    Mar 18, 2012
    In the woods
    I agree. C'mon Fender!
    P.S. And I do love Vox (big Beatles fan).
     
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  16. MadJack

    MadJack Friend of Leo's

    They did pretty well with the Pawnshop Series of amps. The Excelsior did far better than they expected. The Greta did well, especially after people started finding out about them. The Vaporizer and Ramparte, all sold. They were all quirky, but actually decent amps at moderate prices.
     
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  17. LGOberean

    LGOberean Poster Extraordinaire

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    Emphasis on "quirky." :twisted:
     

  18. Frank'n'censed

    Frank'n'censed Doctor of Teleocity

    Mar 27, 2011
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    “Vox brings out the coolest looking practice amp the Mini Super Beetle”

    Looks like buggage to me
     
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  19. LGOberean

    LGOberean Poster Extraordinaire

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    It looks like what it is: a compact Vox amp with traditional Vox styling.

    Vox MSB25 Mini Super Beetle, perspective 3.jpeg
     
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  20. T Prior

    T Prior Poster Extraordinaire

    Mar 17, 2003
    Charlotte NC
    well I'll be the bummer, what they are showing with the very kool small amp model is a mini AC100, NOT a mini Super Beatle. The Super Beatle was Trapezoid head made in the USA by Thomas. The AC 100, BOX head design , was NEVER called a Super Beatle. In fact it was referred to as the small box or the large box, there were two versions. They were all UK manufactured.

    Other than that, it is still kool.

    I owned 3 "THOMAS" SUPER BEATLES, when they worked they were louder than sin, but getting them to stay working was another subject.

    The AC 100's , when they worked were the real deal, but they kept blowing power supplies. Most folks who may use one today power it with a Variac.

    I do like the new small little 2- pc set though, very nice !
     
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