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Vince Gill 53 Telecaster Pickups??

Discussion in 'Just Pickups' started by msmith886, Aug 11, 2017.

  1. msmith886

    msmith886 TDPRI Member

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    Oct 23, 2015
    Alabama
    Does anyone know what pickup Vince Gill uses in his famous 53 tele?
     

  2. Chicago Matt

    Chicago Matt Friend of Leo's

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    Aug 23, 2014
    Woodstock
    Vince Gill probably does. ;)
     
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  3. Chicago Matt

    Chicago Matt Friend of Leo's

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    Sorry, couldn't resist. I would like to know this myself.
     

  4. msmith886

    msmith886 TDPRI Member

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    Oct 23, 2015
    Alabama
    Yeah figure he would but since I don't know Vince personally that doesn't help.
     
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  5. viking

    viking Friend of Leo's

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    Jan 23, 2007
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    Ive read somewhere a while ago that the bridge is stock , and that the neck pu died years ago...
     
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  6. Rufustelestrats

    Rufustelestrats Tele-Meister

    In a brief search the articles and videos I saw, he did not indicate there were any changes on that guitar. It may be original other than he states multiple refrets.
    R
     

  7. AJ Love

    AJ Love Friend of Leo's

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    Jul 10, 2005
    Madison WI
    Yep, it is the original 1953 Fender pickup. What a great tone!
     

  8. ndcaster

    ndcaster Poster Extraordinaire

    Nov 14, 2013
    Indiana
    tele/esquire bridge from '52 to '64 =
    A5 .187 rod
    42awg coil wire
    average wind = 6k to 7k
     
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  9. telerocker1988

    telerocker1988 Tele-Afflicted

    May 2, 2010
    Illinois
    I always thought Vince's tele had a stock bridge. It's a very unique guitar in the sense it isn't an overwound pickup but it's not as trebly as a typical Telecaster that wasn't a Broadcaster or Nocaster. It is a very sweet/warm sounding guitar and I've always thought it was the best sounding Blackguard.
     
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  10. YoGeorge

    YoGeorge Tele-Holic

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    Mar 16, 2003
    Michigan
    Stock bridge pickup. The neck pickup was dead for many years and Vince played it with just the bridge pickup for a while. Now the neck pickup is either a Duncan replacement or a Duncan rewind of the original neck pickup.
     

  11. reckless meanie

    reckless meanie Tele-Meister

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    Jul 24, 2011
    Madras, OR
    Have you seen this?

    I think he covers quite a bit of it here
     
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  12. SPUDCASTER

    SPUDCASTER Poster Extraordinaire Platinum Supporter

    ^This^

    Roll back you tone a little, get a Little Walter amp, practice your A$$ off and you might get close.:D
     

  13. AJ Love

    AJ Love Friend of Leo's

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    Jul 10, 2005
    Madison WI
    Always figured Vince's '53 had an Alnico 3 wound bridge pickup (or, more specifically per the Blackguard book, an Alni 3, no Cobalt). Most of the '52's did, right?
     

  14. Kingpin

    Kingpin Friend of Leo's

    Mar 16, 2003
    Here
    This is my best guess as well. I don't think Fender went to A5 pickups until a few years later (perhaps some vintage experts will weigh in). It's likely an A3 pickup, scatter-wound in the 6.5-7K Ohm range.

    As far as Vince's bridge PU being less "trebly," I suspect it has every bit as much top end as any typical PU of that era, but Vince's preference for rolling back the tone control means that the recorded sound we hear is always a bit softer and rounded on the top.
     
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  15. SPUDCASTER

    SPUDCASTER Poster Extraordinaire Platinum Supporter

    Rob at Cavalier explains how in 51/52(somewhere) they went from A3/43 to A3/42 wire then mid 50's went to the A5/42 combination.

    I have one of his 51/52 Lions. Great pickup, by the way.

    Not affiliated with Cavalier, just a happy customer.
     
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  16. Amby

    Amby Tele-Holic

    I love my 51/52 Lion too - great pickup.
     
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  17. AJ Love

    AJ Love Friend of Leo's

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    Jul 10, 2005
    Madison WI
    Best guess at achieving the Vince Gill tone is to find a pickup with Alni magnets, not Alnico (i.e. No Cobalt). I believe that the Blackguard Book revealed that the early Telecasters had pickups with Alni magnets. Not sure who makes pickups with Alni these days other than Ron Ellis. Maybe Fred Stuart?
     
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  18. Rob DiStefano

    Rob DiStefano Poster Extraordinaire Vendor Member

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    Mar 3, 2003
    NJ via TX
    a3's are alnicu where "cu" is copper and not "co", which is the cobalt in alnico a5 mags. a3's don't magnetically charge as high as a5's and will offer lower gauss rates, but since it's magnetism that matters and not the magnet's composition, a lesser charged a5 can simulate an a3, which is why a lot of the old 50's a5 pickups that have lost magnetism might seem like a3's. from '52 on it was pretty much a5 and 42awg for tele/esquire bridge pickups.
     
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  19. ruger9

    ruger9 Poster Extraordinaire

    Dec 31, 2004
    Hackettstown, NJ
    Exactly! I seems few people know this (and I didn't until a few years ago...)

    Funny, how people over-analyze, looking for "magic" tweaks and such, when all it is is the tone control rolled back a little. The simplest solution is usually the right one.
     
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  20. AJ Love

    AJ Love Friend of Leo's

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    Jul 10, 2005
    Madison WI

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