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Vibrolux Reverb Speakers: Round #12

Discussion in 'Amp Central Station' started by Bob Arbogast, Jan 21, 2017.

  1. sammy123

    sammy123 Tele-Meister Gold Supporter

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    Jul 25, 2011
    MKE
    Well let me add part of what I posted here: http://www.tdpri.com/threads/weber-10a125-o-observations.906325/

    I just grabbed a couple of Weber 10a125-O speakers today for use with my Fender CVR.
    They are a nice upgrade to the green basket Jensen P10R. They seem quite a bit louder and cleaner I'd say you gain at least one spot on the volume before the breakup comes, which is nice because these amps breakup really early stock. So while these speakers are the early break up option they still don't break up as early as the Jensens.

    I like early breakup in an amp, but these Webers just sound so nice that I think I'll stick with them for a while. Maybe a mix of the Jensen and Weber is worth a try.
     
  2. Bob Arbogast

    Bob Arbogast Tele-Afflicted

    Glad you like it! I'm still finding it to be a really good, really Fender-y pairing.
     
  3. dcoviel

    dcoviel NEW MEMBER!

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    Jul 26, 2017
    Nashville, TN
    OK... I just finished a moderate speaker roll in my 1973 Vibrolux Reverb.

    Circuit is stock but has had a thorough cap job and solid vintage tubes powering everything. My VR had its original Oxford speakers. When I pulled them out, the gaskets were stuck to the baffle board. I don't think they had EVER been removed! Nasty pile of dust, dirt and grime piled up on the bottoms. yikes...

    after cleaning up the baffle, here's what I tried (all 8ohm speakers paired for a 4 ohm load):

    Vintage 1976 Emi AlNiCo (great condition, pulled from a Super Reverb)
    Weber 10A125 (made in 2010 and well broken in)
    Weber DT10 (2018, lightly used)
    1st Gen Reverend Alltone 1025 (made by Emi, with the small "R" in the wings on the label)
    Jupiter 10LC (lightly used)
    WGS ET-10 (new)

    since the VR is known to be fairly bright in the circuit, I tested every speaker combo with a Strat (Lollar Blondes) and an SG ('87, stock) to get a feel for single coils vs humbuckers.

    '76 Emi AlNiCo + Alltone 1025: I could tell immediately that the Emi AlNiCo was warm and well broken in, but maybe too broken in. sounded amazing at low volume (2-3) but did not handle high volume as well as i had hoped. I do not know the wattage rating. The Alltone was solid, but a bit too woody for me.

    Alltone 1025 + Weber DT10: ahhh! much better! Solid ceramic punch. The DT10 definitely came through more. I think Weber undervalues their speaker SPL ratings. Great pairing though, and significantly lightened the weight of the amp!

    Jupiter 10LC + Weber 10A125: Holy smokes. Big, Fat and Round. Punchy with tons of attack. I almost called it a day when... I noticed a significant voice coil rub on the Jupiter when I turned the amp up. big ole fizzzzzz. I yanked it out but left in the Weber AlniCo.

    Weber 10A125 + Weber DT10: oh yeah! the broken in AlNiCo paired nicely with the newer ceramic. both rated 30 watts and I believe a close SPL rating (according to Weber). I could hear the DT10 just a bit louder than the AlNiCo, but together they blended very well. sounded awesome at low volume and cranked up.

    Weber 10A125 + WGS ET10: Just to be sure, I swapped in the ET10 to compare against the Jupiter and the Weber DT10. Yes, its their take on a Celection Creamback. Yes it's "brit" in its voicing. My takeaway is that it is solid speaker - for a different amp. It sounded too warm and mushy in the VR circuit. I've read elsewhere that folks say it doesn't cut through in a mix. I can see that now. I can also hear that speaker in a british voiced amp. The ET10 probably belongs in a modern EL84 amp like a Dr Z. Not a good choice for vintage Fender clean.

    I did not try the Alltone 1025 with the Weber 10A125.

    After yanking the ET10, I put the DT10 back in with the 10A125 and called it a day. Very pleased with this combo. Balanced. Tight Bottom. The brightness of the VR was tamed a little. Much improved with single coils. And allowed me to add back in some treble when playing w humbuckers. This is my first go with a Ceramic / AlNiCo mix and I LOVE it.

    That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.
     
    Last edited: Jan 3, 2019
  4. Billy Bouy

    Billy Bouy NEW MEMBER!

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    Jan 4, 2019
    West Coast
    I haven't read all the posts, and am a newby to this forum.....
    However, my question is...I have an old Fender Frontman 212, that has since expired, but was wanting to use the speakers and Cabinet for an extension for my Vibrolux....I believe the speakers in the old frontman cab are 8 0hms....and if I am not mistake, i believe the extension output on the Vibrolux is 4 ohm. Eventually would like to upgrade the speakers, as I can afford it.
     
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  5. Bob Arbogast

    Bob Arbogast Tele-Afflicted

    I'm guessing your question is about the output impedance of the Vibrolux. It is 4 Ohms, whether you use the main output jack or the two output jacks together. (You can't use the extension output jack by itself!)
     
  6. Wally

    Wally Telefied Ad Free Member

    Mar 17, 2003
    Lubbock, TX
    The Ext Spkr jack allows that Fender to be run with 2 x 4 ohm loads in parallel for a 2 ohm load. Leo and Co. designed the amp for that usage.
     
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