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Understanding Johnny Hiland

Discussion in 'Tab, Tips, Theory and Technique' started by AJ Love, Jan 14, 2012.

  1. AJ Love

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    Can any of you explain what Johnny Hiland is doing in this song? I'm not asking for Tabs or Transcriptions, but even just some sort of explanation of what he's playing (scales/positions/changes) would be helpful

     
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    As far as his 'note choices' ... he's (as Brad Paisley like to say) playing jazz on the bridge pick-up.
    Other than the obvious oblique bend stuff and the banjo rolls - he's playing over the individual changes in a blues, playing lines over some 'substitute' chord changes that are implied (ii-V's into the IV chord - not necessarily played by the bass and steel guits) and using chromatic runs.
    His technique and his energy is what's impressive.
    The actual harmonic material he's using is pretty normal/standard.

    You wanna pick like that(?), you gotta learn to play some jazz - no other way around it really.
     
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    Major scales, pentatonic scales and lots of chromatic notes connecting everything. It's largely the use of chromatic notes and the use of hybrid picking that gives it that particular sound.

    EDIT: I guess we was a'typin' at the same time Ken.
     
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    "playing lines over some 'substitute' chord changes that are implied (ii-V's into the IV chord"

    Like E Fm F#dim?
     
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    Looks like he shed a few lbs!

    T.
     
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    No actually.
    A lot of Em7 to A7 on his way to the D7 chord.
    Think of the Diminished as D# dim as opposed to F# dim. The diminished stuff he does is usually coming off the IV chord (D) - much easier to think dim up a 1/2 step IMO. And a common chord prog on the IV of a blues is | D | D#° | back to A.
    Over the V chord (E) you'll hear him imply Bm7 to E7.
    Sometimes in bar 8 (right before the V chord) you'll hear him outline an F#m or F#7 or F#7(#5) chord.

    As for scales - think more mixolydian (dom. 7th) than straight major on this. Over all 3 chords A7 - D7 - E7
     
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    Right. I agree. When I said major scales (and maj and min pent scales) I was thinking more in terms of mixing and matching them all (blending them? rather than running a straight maj. scale) so that you wind up with b7 and 7, which I'm sure somewhere in those flurries of notes he's playing there is that chromatic run up to the R of a chord.
     
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    That was great, "dont say I didn't warn ya".
     
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    Only in Nashville!!

    Can you imagine walking in for a cool refrreshment one afternoon and ...There you find Johnny and his band just SLINGIN!!!!!

    There were only like 5 people in that bar!



    I do find it odd that I NEVER see Johnny playing a TELE?????:eek:
     
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    Looked like a PAWN Shop to me
     
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    I don't want to get into too much trouble with the gunslinger fans, but that type of playing never gets a consistent huge audience. Slowing down to play a memorable melody and really locking into a groove when not soloing is more memorable. That was like watching an athletic competition like gymnastics, sure there was some impressive feats and obvious knowledge by all the players involved, but where's the subtlety that makes it an art? I'm ducking for cover now.
     
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    Thanks. I see what you mean.
     
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    I think it's cool that he has Ronnie Dunn playing bass for him
     
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    I see that Johnny has improved over the years~
     
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    ol' Johnny better loose some weight before it kills him...
     
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    I agree. (maybe because I lack the talent that Johnny has) I have the same problem with a some of Brad Paisley's stuff. These guys play so fast that the notes pass by before my ear has the chance to catch up. I own several Paisley & Hiland cds (which I enjoy and occasionally try to steal from) but to me Pete Anderson is an example of a guy that plays more for the song. Yes there are moments of flash but within the context of the melody. Scoot over, I'm ducking too.:p
     
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    Agree....fast is ok...sometimes..

    tasteful with talent...is best.

    I will add Vince Gill to the keepin' it 'real'.....

    I think some guys get so good .... that they get bored..

    they go to the real fast stuff....next stop jazz...
     
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    I appreciate the responses, thank you

    As far as what is "too fast" and where "tasteful" begins and ends, I suppose that depends on the listener, we all have different tastes and that is plenty OK

    Here is another video of Johnny's that is "less fast" that I also really like a lot

     
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    Lots of major penta,double stops,open strings,tons of banjo rolls.Had the pleasure of taking a few lessons from Johnny a few years ago,one of the best,great guy and very down to earth and a heart as big as Texas.And yes when I first met him when he was still playin' with Don Kelly downtown he was playin' a Tele with 3 Joe Bardens in it and a RI Twin,he had tone to die for!! Don't care to much for the Musicman thing but he's still got chops from Hell.
     
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    Dblstop...

    I bet he is a good guy. What does a lesson from a guy of his caliber cost per hour?

    Don Kelly sure corals the best tele players.....
     
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