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Three-way mini switch

Discussion in 'Tele-Technical' started by fordguy_85, Sep 23, 2017.

  1. fordguy_85

    fordguy_85 TDPRI Member

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    Hey guys, I acquired the MIJ Tele the other day, and it has a 3-way mini toggle switch on the control plate that is not wired to anything. I think that it was possibly added to coil split a bridge humbucker that has since been exchanged for one without splitting ability.

    My question is, what else can I use the switch for? I'm guessing a series/parallel setup, but what other options are there? I'd appreciate any help you guys can offer.

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  2. ScottJPatrick

    ScottJPatrick Tele-Afflicted

    May 12, 2011
    Stirling, Scotland.
    Is the switch on/on/on or on/off/on ? I presume there are 6 lugs on the bottom? You would need to replace it with a two way on/on switch if you wanted to do the series/parallel option.
     
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  3. trev333

    trev333 Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    I use mine to split the bridge coils.. it gives me more options on the middle pos....

    on/on/on... front/back/full ...

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  4. fordguy_85

    fordguy_85 TDPRI Member

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    It's an on/on/on switch...
     

  5. ScottJPatrick

    ScottJPatrick Tele-Afflicted

    May 12, 2011
    Stirling, Scotland.
    Taken from an old thread on TDPRI....but these are for a humbucker with 4 wires, if your current humbucker doesn't have them I'm not sure what use a 3 way on/on/on switch would be, deaf eddie would be the guy to ask.

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  6. fordguy_85

    fordguy_85 TDPRI Member

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    Thanks Scott. The current 'bucker only has two wires, so idk what good it could do me...
     

  7. Zepfan

    Zepfan Friend of Leo's

    Nov 30, 2013
    Horn Lake, MS
    You could also do a Varitone switch setup like the Esquire's had. One position for bright volume only, put the current tone cap on another position and a different value cap on the other position.
     
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  8. KokoTele

    KokoTele Doctor of Teleocity Vendor Member

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    Varitones used an inductor along with capacitors to alter the sound, which works differently than just using capacitors the way the Esquire circuit did.

    You could use it as a series/parallel switch for the neck pickup, use it for different tone caps, add/remove treble bypass on the volume knob... The fact that it's 3 positions instead of 2 wouldn't stop you from doing these things, but I'd probably replace it with an on/on switch instead.
     
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  9. Zepfan

    Zepfan Friend of Leo's

    Nov 30, 2013
    Horn Lake, MS
    You don't have to have an inductor. As long as the switch "Varies" the tone choice it can be a "Varitone Switch" basically.
     
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  10. KokoTele

    KokoTele Doctor of Teleocity Vendor Member

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    You can't wipe your nose on your sleeve and call it a kleenex. ;-)
     
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  11. Asmith

    Asmith Friend of Leo's Ad Free Member

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    Can I hate you guys, I'm not even sure I have a use for an old school varitone with the inductor but now that it's been brought up I've come up with an idea and now have a compulsion to make that idea happen...


    (I'm sure it's not you guys really and I just have some form of OCD o_O)
     
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  12. luckett

    luckett Tele-Afflicted

    Jun 14, 2011
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    So all tone controls shall now be called varitones!
     
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  13. Zepfan

    Zepfan Friend of Leo's

    Nov 30, 2013
    Horn Lake, MS
    You better find out all the details, parts and values of parts so everybody will be able to call it a "Varitone Switch". We wouldn't want any fakes would we?
     
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  14. Anode100

    Anode100 Friend of Leo's

    May 9, 2014
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    Leave it unwired, and have it as a 'Mojo' control.

    ...or, more sensibly, coil split, tone cap variations - or my favourite - a switch to bypass the tone control altogether - for esquire-style crispness.
     
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  15. Asmith

    Asmith Friend of Leo's Ad Free Member

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    Well that variable Cap idea I came up with could be used with a 100k resistor and a 1.5H inductor to form a varitone circuit, I'm probably going to put that in the squier, I can get a suitable inductor on ebay for £5 in the form of a small audio transformer and I have some 100k resistors about as well so it wouldn't be much and I've just bought a pup for the middle position so I may as well put that in there while I'm at it.

    Back to the OP's question, I would consider the following, a blower switch (bypasses controls), fixed bass cut and a phase switch. You can only use 2 obviously as one position is needed as a standard mode.
     
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  16. Zepfan

    Zepfan Friend of Leo's

    Nov 30, 2013
    Horn Lake, MS
    Maybe the OP should just completely remove that switch because Real Tele's don't have that. You also have the wrong pickup in the bridge, you'll have to fix that too.;)

    All kidding aside, you got lots of choices to choose from and let us know if you need any wiring help.(traditional or non-traditional):twisted::lol:
     
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  17. ScottJPatrick

    ScottJPatrick Tele-Afflicted

    May 12, 2011
    Stirling, Scotland.
    Depends how much you like the current humbucker, if you're not thrilled about it there are lots of good options out there, then utilise the three way switch any way you like.
     
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  18. luckett

    luckett Tele-Afflicted

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    Varicoil split is a good option for some pickups. The varibypass can be a bit too subtle for some tone controls.

    The varibass cut and variphase switches are good ideas. The variblower switch won't work for people that like to use their varivolume knobs.
     
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  19. Asmith

    Asmith Friend of Leo's Ad Free Member

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    yes but a variblower is good for jumping from a preset varivolume when using a tube amp set at a varigain point that's just past break up point so you can jump from variclean to varidistorion at the flick of a variswitch although I understand that some people are happy riding the varivolume for this effect instead. But it's also good for jumping from a varitone setting for a dark tone to a bright clear tone at the flick of a variswitch like going from the neck variposition with the varitone rolled off to the bridge variposition with no varitone on a strat. Or you can do the LP varistutter trick by setting the varivolume to zero and flicking the variswitch backwards and forwards rapidly.
     
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  20. Zepfan

    Zepfan Friend of Leo's

    Nov 30, 2013
    Horn Lake, MS
    Could just trade it for a VariStrat.
     
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