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Thought a Twin was Supposed to be the Loudest Clean?

Discussion in 'Amp Central Station' started by scrapyardblue, Mar 18, 2017.

  1. sliberty

    sliberty Tele-Holic

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    But lets not forget that there were a few DR201's also - f'ing scary thought.
     
  2. clintj

    clintj Friend of Leo's

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    Holy cow. Curiosity + Google yielded this: the Crate BV600H. 300W out of 8 12AX7s, 2 12AU7s, and 6 6550s.
     
  3. GuildX700

    GuildX700 Tele-Holic

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    My 1977 Ultralinear 135 watt Twin will peel paint.
     
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  5. Milspec

    Milspec Tele-Meister

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    First off, I am a big Whitey Morgan fan and been to a few sound checks where that Twin was plenty loud. The key is the speakers though, if you run the JBL's or Altecs, it would sound a whole lot louder than with less efficient speakers.

    I love those Altec speakers and even my mid-size amps sound a lot louder with that cabinet.
     
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  6. ricknbaker

    ricknbaker Tele-Meister

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    But lets not forget that there were a few DR201's also - f'ing scary thought.

    I saw one of these one lunchtime on stage in a deserted pub in the Midlands. It just sat there, all on its own exuding a terrible menace....
     
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  7. waparker4

    waparker4 Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Nov 9, 2011
    Philadelphia, PA
    Come on... 15 watts is more than enough for anything :)
     
  8. telemnemonics

    telemnemonics Poster Extraordinaire

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    When I read that a Twin is reeeaaaly loud I figure it's one o' those country players talkin'.
    I've often had to turn down a 50w Marshall so a Twin could be heard.
    I've had a UL Twin and a Bassman 135, certainly louder than an 85-100w Twin, but not as loud as your basic metal panel 100w Marshall.
    Not sure a JCM800 is as loud, maybe not.
    I've run a Bassman 135 (same output section and transformers as UL TR) and a '70 Marshall Super Bass into the same cab and the Marshall was painfully louder.
    Ampeg V4 or VT22?
    Hiwatt?
    I'd be interested to hear an HD130 next to a UL TR, haven't had the pleasure/ pain of both in the same room.

    The circuitry that keeps a Twin clean, basically prevents it from getting much louder after clipping AFAIK.
    Some four el34 Marshalls and Hiwatts making 100w at clipping (vol on 2-3) have been measured at 170w full volume AFAIK.
    Quite a few 100w Marshalls are not like this though, AFAIK the loudest were maybe '68-'74, plus the first 45/100 was more powerful than the second 100, though I've never experienced that amp.

    IMO a TR is a very popular loud amp.
    And it's a small lightweight loud tube amp.
    But it's not a very loud, loud amp.
     
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  9. JohnS

    JohnS Friend of Leo's

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    My Vibrosonic Reverb (8 ohm Twin) with the JBL D130 was plenty loud and clean, thank you. Only amp I owned that sounded great in a high school gym.
     
  10. Paul G.

    Paul G. Friend of Leo's

    Mar 17, 2003
    Rhode Island
    Exactly!!
     
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  11. Frodebro

    Frodebro Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

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    Not even for a soldering iron. :p
     
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