I played with a guy who used a Hiwatt 50 through an Orange 4X12 and wouldn't use an overdrive pedal. He said he had to turn it up to get "that sound." You can get into a volume war with a Hiwatt, but you aren't likely to prevail. I used a 50 watt JCM800 and a 2X12 with JBL E-120s. Won't beat the Hiwatt on dBs, but e-v-e-r-y s-i-n-g-l-e dB is right in the hurty part.