The Wizard Of Oz starring Shirley Temple as Dorothy

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    Hmm, Shirley Temple as Dorothy. Singing Sonewhere Over The Rainbow,,,

    At the time of casting it was always Shirley Temple they saw as Dorothy, in fact it was going to happen when big biz arguing changed the course and Judy Garland got the role.

    I can't think of anyone that could replace Garland in that movie. Ditto to the scarecrow, tin man and cowardly lyon.

    I don't know the details of this story. Maybe someone will chime in with the details?
     
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    I have no details of the history but that movie is as perfect as we can hope for in my opinion. I am a fan :)
     
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    I don't know anything about the Shirley Temple/Judy Garland dustup, but I do know a munchkin did NOT hang himself and get included in the movie. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hanging-munchkin/

    On a side note, Munchkin Suicide would either be a really great or really bad band name, depending on the band.
     
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    Buddy Ebson was supposed to be the Tin Man, but he was highly allergic to the silver makeup. They wanted a singer who could dance for Dorothy, and they were thinking of Judy Garland, but thought she was already too old for the role, since Dorothy was supposed to be around 12. They thought of Shirely Temple next, but decided the role required a better singer than dancer, and that Temple didn't really have the voice.
     
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    I think Buddy Ebsen would have been good in the role of the Tin Man. He did participate in the recording of the song We're Off To See The Wizard sung by Dorothy, Scarecrow, Tin Man, and Lion so his voice can actually be heard in the movie.

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    They should’ve let Toto’sDad make the call...father knows best
     
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    I've read some truly awful things the producers did to Garland during the filming.

    They thought she was too chunky, and gave her diet pills as well as encouraged her to smoke cigarettes.

     
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    Lots of "almost-was" in the casting of iconic movies.
    I still can't see John Wayne in Gunsmoke, but it might have happened.
    I really think it's all about our conditioning, having seen all these movies so many times that we can't imagine else in those roles.
     
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    Absolutely NOTHING to do with the Garland/Temple aspect of your post, but my first foray into musical theater was as a Munchkin in the 1960 Casa Manana production of Wizard of Oz. Began my "career" that lasted about four years of summer stock musicals. I was all of nine years old.....;)
     
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    Can anyone recommend a good Judy Garland biography?
     
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    Iconic, that's Judy Garland singing Somewhere Over The Rainbow. The round warm tone of her voice timbre, it was as beautiful as voice and song gets. Temple would not have been capable of pulling it off.
    But Temple took the loss well and "comforted" her "stage" mom with a positive outlook while silently crying in bed at night about losing the role of a lifetime. At least that's the story I heard.

    The problem was and still is extremely pushy stage moms that push their kids too hard and vicariously live in the shadows.
     
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    If they remade The Wizard of Oz today, I'm sure there would be a place in it for this guy.

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    They had her and Micky Rooney jacked up on speed for years when they were kids.
     
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    MGM was making the movie. Producers wanted Shirley Temple for the role of Dorothy, but Temple was the property of 20th Century Fox, and they wouldn't loan her to a rival studio. Garland was under contract at MGM, so the part thankfully fell to her. Initially, Judy was dressed with a blonde wig, perhaps to have her appear more Shirley Temple-like:
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    He’d thrash ‘em from top to bottomus.
     
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    2020 version.
    Margo Robbie - Dorathy
    Jim Carey - Tin Man
    Sound track Pappa Chubby
     
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    I've heard that Pink Floyd also adored The Wizard Of Oz...




    ...now let me grab my bong here... :rolleyes:
     
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    OK....and which current porn star as Dorothy?
     
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    Richard Simmons?
     
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    The Suicide Munchkins.
     
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