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Discussion in 'Vintage Tele Discussion Forum (pre-1974)' started by 64Strat, Feb 28, 2013.
That '63 Esquire is the prettiest of the bunch!
The way the paint is peeling on some of those whiteguards, they look like enamel color coats.
We have real similar taste when it comes to those whiteguards, Fred.
In reality only the Snakehead prototype was finished in enamel (white). The custom colors (offered from 1960) were either acryl or nitro, the standard blond(e) finish was always nitro.
I have owned a 55 Esquire, a 57 Tele, and two 60 Teles.
All were great guitars.
I played guitar/bass at a blues club for a couple of years, and the
club owner had a 57 Tele that was the "house" guitar.
I gave my 57 away to a friend, and sold/traded the others.
It had a one piece ash body.
Jim Messina's Tele was my inspiration.
Anybody know what his 50s Poco/L&M era white guard was?
I recall reading somewhere it was a "mutt", meaning it's body and
neck were of different years.
If I win the lottery, I'd buy a nice 50's white guard, maybe a 55/56.
To me, they have the definitive Tele tone.
Oooooooh! Lucky you. I tried a few 56 and 57 and for some reasons, they were my favorites among all and I never stopped thinking of them. Couldn't afford one so far, so I increased my knowledge about telecaster year models and found me a 51 hidden under a 72 refinish for very cheap. But I'm still dreaming of those second half of the 50's. Question about the 57 model. I know you don't have it anymore, but would you have some more pics of it? I'm curious about a detail. I've noticed 57 often had a little imperfection : a very little lump where the curve under the neck meets the neck plan. My luthier told me it was true, and it was due to a changing of tooling this year. The picture of yours doesn't show it clearly.
Check this one out...
I'm doing a copy of it as we speak, right down to the birdseye neck...
These guitars are my favorite period, by far...
I don't know if this is correct.
I'm speaking of the time frame of the guitars dealt with in this thread: 1956 - 1963. In 1968 Fender changed to poly for all finishes including blond(e).
I will of course accept documentation that proves me wrong, but so far I have not seen such evidence.
That may be true for the later years, but I know the earlier guitars could have been anything from oilbase to enamel.
I have also seen some say that some blondes were oil base with a lacquer clear coat.
That could probably be correct. That's why I limited the time frame. But parts of Mark Kendrick's info is contradicted somewhat by this article: http://home.provide.net/~cfh/fenderc.html
No mention of enamel here, only acrylic lacquer (Lucite) and nitrocellulose lacquer (Duco). But then the article deals only with custom colors starting in 1960 (Fender released its first "Color Chart" in 1961). Any possible custom colors before 1960 (though rare) might have been enamel for all I know.
1968 is the transition year. Some have poly coated necks only, some both body and neck. Early ones can be all "nitro.". By 69 it is a totally poly affair. Except for the head stocks, which still got lacquer. That is why they get darker than the rest if the neck.
As far as the poly undercoat, fender started using that years before.
here's my '57. one of the meanest sounding teles i have ever encountered. the neck is more like a '58 round neck than the typical '57 v-neck.
it is actually for sale (in europe) as i am (reluctantly) thinning the herd. pm me if interested...
Those are amazing!!
what kind of material are the white pickguards made from?
early blacks were bakelite with nitro laquer..
but are the whites just plastic or something?
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I can't say for certain when it comes to the 50's 1-ply guards, but probably plastic. I 1959 they changed to celluloid (the mint green "nitrate guards"), but the 3-ply white ones after 1964 were plastic at least.
They are not Bakelite or celluloid/nitrate. There was a discussion on the forum some time ago about the identity of stuff, and I can't remember what it is actually called. It is a type of or very much like plastic, but it is fairly hard and brittle.
I wish I were in Europe.
OMG Terry ! That is about as nice as they come.