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Testing the Cavalier Lion pickups

Discussion in 'Just Pickups' started by Muttcaster, Feb 2, 2013.

I liked (multiple choice possible)

  1. The Regular Lion

    20 vote(s)
  2. The Nashville Lion

    14 vote(s)
  3. The Bakersfield Lion

    11 vote(s)
  4. I'm really a 'bucker kind of person

    1 vote(s)
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Muttcaster

    Muttcaster Tele-Holic

    Apr 11, 2003
    New Mexico
    I put together an Esquire recently and started working my way thru Rob DiStefano's pickup offerings. Have a listen and see what you think- comments welcomed.

    Gear is Fender body, Allparts neck, Glendale saddle, Fender bridge, 250k pots, .033 mf tone cap, .022 wah cap, .010-.046 D'Addario strings, heavy pick, tweed Champ on 3.5-ish. No effects: guitar -> amp.

    I kind of fumbled around on the 1st video while trying to decide what to play and then got more consistent about testing tones in the 2nd and 3rd ones. Ignore my sucky playing and focus on the guitar tones.

    Full Lion:

    Nashville Lion:

    Bakersfield Lion:

  2. wallis222

    wallis222 Tele-Afflicted

    Oct 24, 2011
    Toronto, Canada
    Cant wait to watch these when I get home!

  3. HopDog

    HopDog Tele-Meister

    Sep 7, 2009
    Upstate NY
    Sweet...nice job with the videos! I was interested in hearing Rob's pickups...your videos audition them nicely.

    I also dig the Esquire you built...probably because I built one just like her! :)


  4. Muttcaster

    Muttcaster Tele-Holic

    Apr 11, 2003
    New Mexico
    Great minds! :D


  5. wallis222

    wallis222 Tele-Afflicted

    Oct 24, 2011
    Toronto, Canada
    Nice lookin axe! Unfortunately the demo isn't really helpful for me. My personal taste, but the amp has got to be louder to get any sort tone that I like. It all sounded muddy and lifeless. Don't get me wrong, with a build like that (awesome parts, awesome electronics, awesome pickups) plus a great little amp, I'm sure you can get some really fantastic tones. But this is just not doin' it for me.

    I preferred the Bakersfield Lion, but I feel like the other two pups would get brighter, punchier, and have a tighter bass response if you turned the amp up a bit.

  6. Stickist

    Stickist TDPRI Member

    Apr 5, 2012
    To me, original Lion (which I too have) and Bakersfield were the best sounding ones. Having played the Lion for more than a month its easily recognizable sound. Those two are different for sure, for different purposes I'd say. Either one would work for me, but bakersfield wouldnt get used without tone control.

    I'm glad that you went through all this just to let us hear the differences. If I need another Cavalier someday I now know how the other ones sound too.

  7. Muttcaster

    Muttcaster Tele-Holic

    Apr 11, 2003
    New Mexico
    I'm going to go back and do that later, but I'm going to have to move the amp across the room or something; that thing was so loud sitting 5' behind me that it made me flinch at times. When I miss a note sometimes it's because I'm anticipating getting hurt. I don't know how people play that loud.... When I crank my Deluxe Reverb, I do it down at the barn with a 25' cable, the amp is in the barn and I'm _outside_. And it STILL hurts my ears! :!:

    Frankly, I'm really not an electric guitar player- I just mess with this stuff. I'm a bluegrass flatpicker first and 90% of my actual electric guitar playing is Western Swing, church stuff, and Hank Williams-era country. As much as I'd like to crank it up, my playing situations just don't allow it. Yet. :twisted:

  8. teleamp

    teleamp Poster Extraordinaire

    Sounds great... all three did...

    Did you try one in a D18 though? :)

  9. xtrajerry

    xtrajerry Doctor of Teleocity

    Nice job.. on the videos & that guitar..

  10. cocoboudin

    cocoboudin Tele-Holic

    Oct 4, 2010
    I do have the original lion in my Esquiere and it's just a awsome pup to my opinion it's the best i ever played, i didn't test the other's from Rob and i have no doubt that the other version are as good has the original.Cocoboudin

  11. Muttcaster

    Muttcaster Tele-Holic

    Apr 11, 2003
    New Mexico

    There's a thought! I've got this old 1930 something or another in the shop. Since it's a beat-up old guitar that's not worth much, maybe I could slap a couple of Lions in it.

    Something like this, maybe?


  12. plasticvonaband

    plasticvonaband TDPRI Member

    Feb 14, 2012
    Cavalier Lion...

    Brinigng this one back from the dead, just to say that I ordered a Cavalier Lion for my Partsquire today. Already got an email from Rob saying
    "hi greg,

    your cavalier lion will be built, wound, potted, charged tomorrow, 5/8, and shipped out on 5/9 via usps priority - you will receive email tracking.


    Now that's quick service!!

    Got the stock setup Cavalier Lion with the Ivory String Wrap.

    Getting closer to my project being done!!


  13. CajunPicker316

    CajunPicker316 Tele-Holic

    Sep 24, 2012
    Lafayette, Louisiana
    I'm liking the Bakersfield, with the Nashville running a close second. I'm a little concerned about all the review's I've heard about the Bakersfield, even Rob says it could be very bright, but man I like the tones your getting out of it.

  14. Telenator

    Telenator Doctor of Teleocity Vendor Member

    Sep 19, 2005
    They all sounded good although a ture bypass hoody would have definitely improved the tone. :lol:

  15. Zork

    Zork TDPRI Member

    Sep 10, 2003
    Fret Tech Esquire with a Nashville Lion wrapped in ivory 50s-like meat cutter's string. You gotta try one. Sub 6 lbs. Esquire. Impressive.....

  16. Muttcaster

    Muttcaster Tele-Holic

    Apr 11, 2003
    New Mexico

    I still like the Bakersfield in the Esquire, myself.

  17. pluckbuddy

    pluckbuddy TDPRI Member

    Mar 13, 2011
    Hitchin, UK
    Thanks for the great demos. All pickup demos should be like this (if you ask me) - straight into the amp, no effects, no mic distortion on the camera, each pickup shown in the same context so you can compare properly.

    They all sound great - but I'd prefer the bakersfield in an esquire set up too for maximum tonal variation. I've not bought Rob's pickups but the neck he sold me is still on my No1 tele. Great service.

  18. BopT

    BopT Tele-Afflicted

    Feb 6, 2011
    I just ordered the Bakersfield. Love the sound! Thanks for the demo.

    Post Script It took Rob less than two hours to build and send my pickup! Outstanding service!
    Last edited: May 25, 2013

  19. Muttcaster

    Muttcaster Tele-Holic

    Apr 11, 2003
    New Mexico
    I added a couple more videos. Rob sent me a Tele-neck-sized Strat pup so I combined it with the Bakersfield in my Nashville Tele. (I would've put the Nashville Lion in the Nashville Tele, but I sent it to a friend for him to try). Here's the results of that:


  20. Muttcaster

    Muttcaster Tele-Holic

    Apr 11, 2003
    New Mexico
    And then he sent me one called a "Panther" but didn't tell me anything about it. I thought I'd combine it with a neck humbucker I'd used previously so I tossed 'em both in my former Esquire. After listening to this video, I think the bridge pup needs to be raised a little bit and I will probably go back and do that shortly, but here's where I'm at with it right now:

    I'm really liking the 'bucker and 'bucker/Tele sounds.

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