Talk me out of/into a VOX AC30 (and some dB discussion)

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  1. Polderpatat

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    Hi,

    Although on forums much is said about the vox edge of breakup tones, crunch and the associated mega volume. How does it behave as a clean chimey sparkly pedal platform. But I'm allergic to ice picks, which can cause to occur more then I would like in my search for bright cleans.

    I don't play in a band (anymore) but also not super quiet. To make this statement a bit more valid, I've used following apps to give some dB references, measured at 2meters from the cab:

    "Decibel X" gave me for my most quiet session average of 75dB for the loudest 95dB (peaks up to 109dB).
    "Sound Meter" gave for the quietest 80 dB and loud 95dB.

    Is the VOX AC30 just to much amp for these volumes?
     
  2. Whatizitman

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    Let's just say I can count on one finger the AC30 owners I've met who regularly play their amps at home. Most end up selling them. Don't buy one for home use if you want break up, crunch, and not-so-ice pick. If you do, don't buy new. Plenty of them out there for steal prices for the above reasons.
     
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    Great sound amps... very very loud though! Too loud for home use, studio use, or even most gigs imo. Maybe consider an AC15 and use the money saved to get the celestion blue. They are a bit fussy with pedals too. All in all, I wouldn't consider vox amps versatile at all. However, they are capable of some of the nicest tones ever. I prefer the 30 over the 15, but the volume is just a deal breaker. It's a stadium amp.
     
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    I would add that an AC30 is too much amp for where I play out. I JUST WON'T play that loud anymore! An AC10 would make a good choice, though even THEY are pretty loud. The other guitarist I've been playing with uses an AC10, and it does sound good.....although I'd like to hear it with a 12" speaker.....;)
     
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    If you're not playing out, you don't need an AC30 -- and you probably don't want one, either. Too much amp for around the house, as others have said. At sane volumes, I think the AC15 sounds better, too -- and since you don't have to move it, the weight of the thing doesn't matter.

    The "cut" control is your friend in search of bright cleans. I wouldn't buy a Vox-style amp without one.
     
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    I would say the AC30 is a bit much for home use, personally. I tried the AC30 in store and went with the Super Champ X2 instead because it got the sound I was looking for at lower volume levels.
     
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    I played one in a store a few years back and loved it. I think the 10 inch complements it nice. A buddy of mine has the AC4 with the 12inch. I haven't been as impressed with it. We cranked it for recording and got some nice feedback, but it was noisy as hell and still too boxy and ice picky. I'd get the AC10 if i were in the market. AC15 is too much for my needs now.
     
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    Much is said about how "loud" tube amps are.
    But there is a knob for that!

    For me, and what you're asking about which you call "clean chimey sparkley", we will never need the maximum volume of a 30w amp, but what WE DO NEED is the clean headroom.
    I like 18w Marshalls for their cleans, which tend to be fatter with more mids and lower mids than the AC15/ 30.
    But turn up the amp and it loses that clean clarity as it starts to distort.

    Many here call a 30w amp too loud because we want to use it for distorted sounds.
    There the player wants a smaller amp that is distorted at your chosen db level.

    But if you want clean at a range of volumes, you need a bigger amp turned down.
     
  9. Marc Morfei

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    I don't know why anyone would need an AC30.
    An AC15 is loud. And sparkling clean all the way up. Put it this way: I play in a band with a loud drummer, and I have never turned it up loud enough to get breakup on the clean channel. I suppose it might be possible...
    Onboard tone controls allow you to make it sound however you want.
    And many people on this board say they gig contentedly with an AC10.
     
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  10. Fiesta Red

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    AC10 or AC15 is more than enough amp, especially for home use.

    To prevent ice-pick brightness, there are these things called “tone knobs” on amps and on guitars...start playing with them, especially the one that says “TREBLE”...:D
     
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    I built an AC15 and added a 1/2 power switch (pentode/triode). On full power mode, I could barely turn it up a home - luckily I installed a Master Volume also.

    I played it at neighborhood party. A guy in my neighborhood was a sound guy and mentioned how loud the amp was. My drummer mentioned how lound the amp was. The sound guy asked my how many watts the amp puts out and was very suprised when I told him it was 15 watts, he was even more suprised when I told him that I only had it turned up a third of the way.

    Master Volume is your friend!
     
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    AC30's are not really ideal for playing at home.

    I use a 5W amp at home and use the AC30 for playing with a drummer/bassist.

    It's loud enough to still have a "clean" tone although "Vox clean" is it's own thing.

    Cranking one for a crunch tone is fine for Brian May :rolleyes:

    My advice would be to find a more suitable amp for playing in your house.

    :)
     
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    AC15C2. It's an AC15 with 2 X12 cabinet. It's still loud as all get up and moving some serious air around
     
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    The AC30 is a great amp, if you're Brian May, Rory Gallagher or Ritchie Blackmore and playing large halls/stadia...
    Too much amp for home use, too much amp for a lot of folks back too!.
    The AC10 gets a lot of love.
    The AC4-C1 doesn't sound like an AC15/30. It's a single ended amp. Fun in its own way, but missing something the AC15/30 possesses.
    As a European, ever thought of building a low Watt kit?.
    https://www.tube-town.net/cms/?DIY/LoW-Projekte/Molly_(engl)

    You'd be surprised just how loud tiddler amps can get in a small room. I've not built the Molly, but I have built a kit from TubeTown and it's a little fiddly ( I built a Lummerland ), but sounds fine. Easy enough if you take your time, meter everything and verify each wire after soldering it in. 3~4 Watts through a good speaker is delightful. A castrated 30 Watt?, less so.
     
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    Having had a 10 and a 15 in the last year, if you want an amp strictly for home use but you want to get some loud-clean ?

    AC15

    10 has no headroom. At all.

    Great-sounding amp. Great crunch. No headroom.

    But I’d recommend a 15 only if you were never going to move it .
     
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    I recently picked up an AC10C1 and have been seriously enjoying it. I've had no lack of headroom for clean volume in my office and I've been digging the breakup tones. I really like running it out to a cab with a 12" G12H, but the 10" is nice, honestly. I will say I don't love it for pedals, but it plays nice with fuzz pretty well.

    For home use, it's wonderful. And it's light and quick to haul to around.
     
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    I like my Vox amps. My TB18C1 has been my best sounding amp, for many years. But for home use, My Vox VXII gets more use. I've also liked the Vox sounds from my old Roland Cube 30.
     
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    You will be surprised, I currently have an AMT stonehead with a Thiele 112 with an eminence delta proA, even with treble, mids and precense down, it still seems like it want to try to shove an ice pick through my head, with gain it behaves nice though :lol:
     
  20. Polderpatat

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    Anyway for some reference
    the tone this dude gets is nice IMHO, even though he uses a compressor, I wonder how loud it is turned up



    these are the things I want to get, but not at gigging volumes, nor at super quiet either.

    Do fender amps behave better at sane volumes?
     
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