Take which strings off a 12-string to reduce its jangliness somewhat?

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  1. RoscoeElegante

    RoscoeElegante Friend of Leo's

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    Hey, all. Hope this finds you well.

    So I've got a wee gig next week in which I'd like to find a role for my 12-string acoustic. BUT the room is kinda squeaky to begin with. And the song I had in mind for the 12-string isn't quite matching up, even with the guitar tuned down a half-step to accommodate my "singing." Too much jangle, when what I want is moody shimmer.

    I know that some people take an upper-octave string or two off their 12-er with some good results, but I've never tried that. Before I go down the messy floor route, which strings do you recommend I remove to de-jangle-ify things somewhat?

    Thanks for your suggestions.
     
  2. Chunkocaster

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    I'm just guessing because I have rarely played a 12 string but maybe you could try playing it through a barely on sub octave pedal or run an extra long lead coiled up?
     
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    Play with your strumming hand over the neck, away from the bridge. No need to remove strings.
     
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    I remember hearing of people removing the high G.
     
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    Remove the normal strings and leave the octave strings. This called a Nashville set. Sounds great, kinda mando/banjo like. Very different you'll like it.
     
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    Pull the high G.
     
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    Pat Martino once strung up a "12 string" with 10 strings, doubling only the DGBE strings, in unison, and he detuned a smidge for a chorus effect.

     
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    This may not be at all what you have in mind but lately Roger McGuinn has been rocking a custom Martin 7 string that has an octave string only for the "G". I've heard him play it and there is a surprising amount of 12 string shimmer considering it has only 7 strings. It loses the big roaring bass a la Leadbelly.
     
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    Use this with a six string and adjust the "level".....
     
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    I would try just taking off whichever string is most “jangly” sounding to you one at a time until you get to your desired effect. That’s probably how anyone else would have to do it too. Good luck with your gig and let us know how it turns out.
     
  12. rze99

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    Ground wound strings might help
     
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    Some people like it. It's worth a try just for the fun of it, but it might just intensify the jangle.
     
  14. Charlie Bernstein

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    It depends on which part of the jangle is bugging you. Experiment.
     
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    Dave Immergluck of Counting Crows uses flat-wound strings on his electric 12 string; I tried it and it works nicely to bring down the brightness. On an acoustic you could try ground-wound (D'Addario's misnomer for that is "Flat-Tops") or flat-wound (chrome strings for hollowbody jazz guitars come in heavy enough gauges to swap them in for the main strings on your acoustic 12). Swapping out the individual strings would be cheaper than a true flatwound 12-string set (Pyramid makes them, though, they're quite expensive).
     
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    Play your 12 string as a twelve string or leave it home and play only your six string.

    No one in the room will care or notice.
     
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    Careful with Pyramids, they require a lot of tension. Even Rickenbacker doesn't recommended them for their electrics.
     
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    For ease of playing I have taken off the lower EAD strings off my Guild 12 String. That way I can do power chords on the lower strings and have a totally different lead sound with doubled up top strings. I can have it be jangly if I want to go in that direction. I have never doubled the G with the same gauge of string, but this might be an interesting variation to check out.
     
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    I do not have a clue what "moody shimmer" is but the voice of your guitar is what it is. Other than having it rebraced not much is going to change that. So I don't know. Maybe let the strings get good and dead. But as somebody else has noted, most in the audience do not care what guitar you are playing and I doubt you will get complaints about the guitar being too jangly sounding. If the 12 string does not work for you, what you could always do is take a six string you already like the sound of and have an octave G string added.
     
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    I've found the best compromise across the piece are Ricky Sounds Groundwounds.

    They are bright enough
    They don't have excessive harmonics and overtones
    They really stay in tune
    They last a long time
    They don't break
    They don't corrode
    They have normal feeling tension and don't change tone under finger standard pressure.

    I keep then on my Rickenbacker for about a year, playing every 2nd or 3rd day. Wipe down fully. Use Fast Fret on them before and after. Happy.
     
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