Sweet Home Alabama is in G, no it's in D, no it's,,,,,

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  1. 24 track

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    ok!
     
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    The verse starts in D, the progression resolves back to D, so I'm going to go out on a limb, and say, it's in D. (I know nothing about music theory tho...) I'm totally ear trained, Ed King did write the intro lick, but to me, it's in D. As long as I'm playing it like I want to, and it sounds right, that's all I care about.

    I know, I shouldn't get involved in a music theory problem, but sometime
    s I just can't help it.....sorry! LOL
     
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    How about D and G at the same time?
     
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    No joke, I was asking a music professor about the key for Velvet Underground's "Oh, Sweet Nuthin'" (chord progression is D C G D) and he said it was I VII IV I mixolydian in D.
     
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    This is what can happen when an entire song is based on a "lick." :D

    However, it's interesting how such a simple three-chord song (the F bit aside) can elicit so much unpacking of the harmonic structure. This isn't the first thread where the subtleties have been explored. I've never covered it and it's one of those "I'll figure this out later" songs, but I do enjoy listening to the interplay if the guitars on the record.
     
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    I use that chord alot in several songs, D with a G bass
     
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    My feeling is G. I’m gonna go with G. When I improvise, it’s mostly in G.

    Ultimately, however, I don’t care. I don’t even like LS and it annoys me that I enjoy playing that damn song.
     
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    Vocal verses gravity is in D.
    Inst. sections gravity is in G.

    It's how I hear it. I don't do the academic argument on it anymore. It doesn't matter. Just play a good solo and don't butcher the groove.
     
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    It is in G. Theory aside, it simply sounds that way. V-IV-I, period.
    It's called a deceptive cadence for a reason. The F-C thing is VII-IV. It can be soloed over, boringly, in G major only. It's the other notes that make it interesting, but G major is its base.
     
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    I'm reminded of another "D and G" chords thing that seems to share some of what's going on in SWA.

    We play "Put a Little Love in Your Heart" in D, with an into of G, D, G, D (IV, I, IV, I). Nobody says you have to start on the I chord, right?

    Then at the guitar solo (wha? hey it's my band LOL) we "uplift" to the IV and I play the solo over four bars of the G-D intro chords, finishing out the verse normally chord-wise.

    It's a little like a modulation and gives the song a little kick when the solo starts. Starting the solo on that first bar of G, I'm 'feigning' the key of G — although we're still in key of D and I'm soloing basically in D pentatonic major. which becomes evident again when I resolve to it at the next measure.

    It's a little like adding a chorus (bridge?) that goes to the IV chord (a move that seldom fails) and making it a guitar solo. I guess that's what we did.

    (We don't modulate the whole song up for the final verses, as Jackie DeShannon does.)

    Anyway, thought that might be interestng...try it!
     
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    Great timing fro this thread again.....having only recently started breaking out of the minor pentatonic box take this with a grain of salt BUT....

    As I am now trying to broaden my horizens by doing more than just playing by rote I have taken to learn and understand how and why to play the solos in Freebird and SWA amongst others. Songs that I think are mostly not minor pent.

    Something that might shed some light is that reading about these songs in my study I found a very interesting comment from either a guitar magazine or article or somewhere of semi respected authority.

    They said that the genre of southern Blues Rock (Skynnard was mentioned specifically) that the solos were usually based around Major Pentatonic boxes, though a little minor thrown in isn't unusual...or words to that effect.

    Given that most songs are of an upbeat nature I wonder if you guys might break that down a little bit? True or false?
     
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    One of my bands had a big debate about Can't Ya See in the same way. Now I can't recall which side of the arguement I was on at the time. :)
     
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    It's in G
    Ed King himself said so (previously mentioned)
    Musically, it's all explained here

     
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    I researched that one too. Watched as many versions on it on Youtube as I coud find and I (IMO) determined it is a Major song as well.

    Certainly the main riff and solo seem to be. I Love this version..

    There is a better quality one somewhere, cant find it at the moment. Marcus King solo is amazing. keyboard art drags on a bit.

     
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    I read and interview with Ed King and he said the song is in G maj but in the studio he accidentally played the solo in D.
     
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    Sounds like C9 to me, not G/C.
    But then again, I hear C9s everywhere...
     
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    This illustrates the glorious thing about rock music: you don’t really need to understand it to play it.

    Or, as I heard Tom Petty say in an interview a long time ago: "It's rock and roll. It's really not supposed to be good."
     
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