Yes, I'm not sure how you would or should negate the person who's done something such as pass the CPA exam, a state bar, achieve medical fellowship or really be an engineer. Some of this is selfish but I also think of my daughter and her friends and the part-time student workers I see on the job. My daughter is a senior and our family not qualifying for charity but absolutely all working for things to be better. My daughter's held 4.0, passed the AP exams, lettered in sports and had two part-time jobs all through high school. We sacrificed a lot to move from a deteriorating neighborhood to a top school district. Where I work there are grocery stores, cafes and kitchen where students work. One of my siblings married someone who won the birth lottery and has two very accomplished of 3 decent kids. They worked hard at school, they really have no idea how hard some work. Even when not cheating, I've faced parents surprised that we are not using consultants like they are. I do wonder about fairness to the hard working kids. My other concern for all of this is the institution bashing. As much as there was b.s. in my getting a degree, it was valuable. I have 3 kids who remembered we moved from a crappy neighborhood and they know what their mother faces teaching in a big city school. They're looking at the schools as institutions not just to get ahead but also about general excellence. We should be somewhat careful about bashing the institutions overall.